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44 [For people who didn't see the announcement last week on the
47 I'm starting a GIMP course, posting the first lesson tonight under
48 the topic [gimp]. It's aimed specifically at beginners and
49 near-beginners, but everyone is welcome. Come twiddle bits
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98 Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
100 Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
102 What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU Image Manipulation
103 Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's primary purpose.
105 This course is aimed at people with an interest in image processing,
106 but not much experience with actual image editing. But anyone
107 is welcome! Feel free to ask questions, or jump in with discussion
108 or corrections. And if you know an easier way to do something I
109 talked about, don't hesitate to point it out!
111 If you have a question like "How would I accomplish this thing
112 that I can do in [proprietary app]?", feel free to ask, but keep
113 in mind that not everyone may be familiar with the app.
114 So describe what the function does, or post "before" and "after"
115 images: don't just give the name of the function.
117 For this course, you will need:
118 - Access to a computer with GIMP installed.
120 I will generally be using GIMP 2.2, the current version,
121 for the examples. But since I realize a lot of people are
122 using earlier versions, I'll try to give an idea where to look
123 for things which might have moved around.
125 If possible, try to use at least GIMP 2.0, since the user interface
126 changed quite a bit from 1.2. But if you need to use 1.2, and can't
127 find something, feel free to ask about it!
131 - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
132 scans, or images downloaded from the web.
134 - Access to the internet, and willingness to share some of
135 your creations. Each lesson will have "homework", where
136 you're encouraged to produce an image using some of the
137 techniques discussed. Please participate! Sharing images
138 is fun, and I think students will have fun with it too.
139 If nobody shares their images, I'll probably get demotivated
140 and quit writing lessons. Fair warning. :-)
142 If you have a web site to post your own images, that's ideal.
143 If you don't have any web space, there are lots of places that
144 offer free hosting of photos (the hook is usually that they hope
145 you'll order prints from them). Try googling for something like:
146 free photo "web site"
148 Enough background ... let's get started! Start up the GIMP on your
149 own machine, either from your system menus, by double-clicking the
150 gimp icon, or by running "gimp" from the commandline. (You can also
151 run "gimp file1.jpg file2.png ..." if you have a specific set of
154 If you run gimp from the commandline, you may want to put an ampersand
155 ("&") at the end of the line, so that gimp will run in the background,
156 and you will be able to use your terminal for other things while gimp
157 is running. Something like:
158 gimp file1.jpg file2.png &
160 Depending on version, GIMP will usually pop up several windows.
161 Let's go through the important ones:
165 This is the GIMP's main window: the titlebar just says "The GIMP.
166 It has a very simple menubar, which you can use to call up functions
167 that aren't specific to any particular image. Let's go over the three
170 The toolbox File menu contains file operations such as Open a new image.
171 It also has an Open Recent submenu, which you can use as a shortcut
172 to revisit images which you've edited recently. This can be a real
173 timesaver versus poking through the filesystem looking for where you
174 stored the image. The File menu also includes Preferences (which I'll
175 discuss in a later lesson), a Dialogs submenu which allows you to
176 bring up or shoo away some of the GIMP's other dialogs, and Quit.
178 The toolbox Xtns menu contains various scripts to do fun things.
179 I'll discuss some of them in a later lesson; meanwhile, you might
180 enjoy exploring the Python-Fu and Script-Fu submenus. There are
181 tons of cool scripts in there.
183 The Help menu brings up the GIMP's help system. The help system for
184 GIMP 2.0 is based on gnome help, and unfortunately a lot of systems
185 don't have all the necessary pieces installed. Try it, but if it
186 doesn't work, don't panic. There's lots of GIMP help available
187 online, and if you're in this course, then you have a place to ask
188 questions about anything you're having problems with!
190 Below the menubar, most of the GIMP toolbox is taken up by the "tool
191 palette": small icons representing various GIMP tools. We'll talk about
192 those tools in future courses. For now, if you move the mouse over a
193 tool and stop there, you'll get a tooltip telling you what tool the
194 icon represents. Feel free to play around with changing tools and
195 experiment with what some of the tools do.
197 Below the tool palette is a color selector, on the left, showing
198 foreground and background color; and on the right, an area showing the
199 currently selected brush, fill pattern, and gradient.
200 These are used by the text tool and various drawing and painting
201 tools; we'll be talking about them in future lessons. For now,
202 clicking on them will bring up a dialog allowing you to change them.
204 If you see anything else below the color/brush/pattern/gradient
205 selectors, it probably means you have another dialog docked at the
206 bottom of the toolbox window. Since this varies by user, anything
207 which might be docked there will be discussed later.
211 Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox
212 window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners
213 immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this
214 course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
218 Each image GIMP opens will have its own window. In GIMP 2.0 and 2.2,
219 these windows have their own menubars across the top (this is
220 configurable in Preferences); in 1.2, they don't. But in any version
221 of GIMP, whether or not there's a menubar, you can always get to the
222 image window menus by right-clicking inside the image window.
226 Depending on your GIMP version, you may see other windows, such as
227 Tool Options, Brushes, or Devices. We'll talk about those later,
228 but for now, you don't need them.
230 This concludes the (rather long) intial lesson. Your only homework
231 for this lesson is to look through the gimp menus, mouse over the
232 tools in the toolbox to see their tooltips, and generally get familiar
233 with how the app looks. Try opening an image, or maybe running some
234 of the scripts in the Xtns menu. Have fun!
236 Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload
237 pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the web.
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295 I am looking forward to the course :)
297 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
298 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
301 www.burningwell.org was a link that was sent to me just last week as
302 there are a couple of contributors that I know who have submitted some
305 These are public domain, so for people like me whose photographic skills
306 are negligible, they will be fun to start playing with as Akkana guides
307 us through using the GIMP.
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364 I am a bit behind because I am battling to install GIMP.
366 I have the following directory structure:
370 Within gimp-2.2.0 I have the following subdirectories:
377 The libraries are in:
378 usr/lib/ and usr/include
380 The INSTALL file says I must do the following:
381 % tar xvfz gimp-2.2.x.tar.gz # unpack the sources
382 % cd gimp-2.2.x # change to the toplevel directory
383 % ./configure # run the `configure' script
384 % make # build the GIMP
385 % make install # install the GIMP
387 When I type ./configure, I get the message "Command not found" even when I
388 type the full pathname.
390 Please help and thanks in advance. I don't want to miss a session.
399 ---------- Original Message -----------
400 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
401 To: courses@linuxchix.org
402 Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0800
403 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with the GIMP
405 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
407 > Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
409 > What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU Image Manipulation
410 > Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's primary purpose.
412 > This course is aimed at people with an interest in image processing,
413 > but not much experience with actual image editing. But anyone
414 > is welcome! Feel free to ask questions, or jump in with discussion
415 > or corrections. And if you know an easier way to do something I
416 > talked about, don't hesitate to point it out!
418 > If you have a question like "How would I accomplish this thing
419 > that I can do in [proprietary app]?", feel free to ask, but keep
420 > in mind that not everyone may be familiar with the app.
421 > So describe what the function does, or post "before" and "after"
422 > images: don't just give the name of the function.
424 > For this course, you will need:
425 > - Access to a computer with GIMP installed.
427 > I will generally be using GIMP 2.2, the current version,
428 > for the examples. But since I realize a lot of people are
429 > using earlier versions, I'll try to give an idea where to look
430 > for things which might have moved around.
432 > If possible, try to use at least GIMP 2.0, since the user interface
433 > changed quite a bit from 1.2. But if you need to use 1.2, and
434 > can't find something, feel free to ask about it!
438 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
439 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
441 > - Access to the internet, and willingness to share some of
442 > your creations. Each lesson will have "homework", where
443 > you're encouraged to produce an image using some of the
444 > techniques discussed. Please participate! Sharing images
445 > is fun, and I think students will have fun with it too.
446 > If nobody shares their images, I'll probably get demotivated
447 > and quit writing lessons. Fair warning. :-)
449 > If you have a web site to post your own images, that's ideal.
450 > If you don't have any web space, there are lots of places that
451 > offer free hosting of photos (the hook is usually that they hope
452 > you'll order prints from them). Try googling for something like:
453 > free photo "web site"
455 > Enough background ... let's get started! Start up the GIMP on your
456 > own machine, either from your system menus, by double-clicking the
457 > gimp icon, or by running "gimp" from the commandline. (You can also
458 > run "gimp file1.jpg file2.png ..." if you have a specific set of
461 > If you run gimp from the commandline, you may want to put an ampersand
462 > ("&") at the end of the line, so that gimp will run in the
463 > background, and you will be able to use your terminal for other
464 > things while gimp is running. Something like: gimp file1.jpg
467 > Depending on version, GIMP will usually pop up several windows.
468 > Let's go through the important ones:
472 > This is the GIMP's main window: the titlebar just says "The GIMP.
473 > It has a very simple menubar, which you can use to call up functions
474 > that aren't specific to any particular image. Let's go over the
477 > The toolbox File menu contains file operations such as Open a new image.
478 > It also has an Open Recent submenu, which you can use as a shortcut
479 > to revisit images which you've edited recently. This can be a real
480 > timesaver versus poking through the filesystem looking for where you
481 > stored the image. The File menu also includes Preferences (which
482 > I'll discuss in a later lesson), a Dialogs submenu which allows you
483 > to bring up or shoo away some of the GIMP's other dialogs, and Quit.
485 > The toolbox Xtns menu contains various scripts to do fun things.
486 > I'll discuss some of them in a later lesson; meanwhile, you might
487 > enjoy exploring the Python-Fu and Script-Fu submenus. There are
488 > tons of cool scripts in there.
490 > The Help menu brings up the GIMP's help system. The help system for
491 > GIMP 2.0 is based on gnome help, and unfortunately a lot of systems
492 > don't have all the necessary pieces installed. Try it, but if it
493 > doesn't work, don't panic. There's lots of GIMP help available
494 > online, and if you're in this course, then you have a place to ask
495 > questions about anything you're having problems with!
497 > Below the menubar, most of the GIMP toolbox is taken up by the "tool
498 > palette": small icons representing various GIMP tools. We'll talk about
499 > those tools in future courses. For now, if you move the mouse over a
500 > tool and stop there, you'll get a tooltip telling you what tool the
501 > icon represents. Feel free to play around with changing tools and
502 > experiment with what some of the tools do.
504 > Below the tool palette is a color selector, on the left, showing
505 > foreground and background color; and on the right, an area showing
506 > the currently selected brush, fill pattern, and gradient. These are
507 > used by the text tool and various drawing and painting tools; we'll
508 > be talking about them in future lessons. For now, clicking on them
509 > will bring up a dialog allowing you to change them.
511 > If you see anything else below the color/brush/pattern/gradient
512 > selectors, it probably means you have another dialog docked at the
513 > bottom of the toolbox window. Since this varies by user, anything
514 > which might be docked there will be discussed later.
518 > Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox
519 > window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners
520 > immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this
521 > course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
525 > Each image GIMP opens will have its own window. In GIMP 2.0 and 2.2,
526 > these windows have their own menubars across the top (this is
527 > configurable in Preferences); in 1.2, they don't. But in any version
528 > of GIMP, whether or not there's a menubar, you can always get to the
529 > image window menus by right-clicking inside the image window.
533 > Depending on your GIMP version, you may see other windows, such as
534 > Tool Options, Brushes, or Devices. We'll talk about those later,
535 > but for now, you don't need them.
537 > This concludes the (rather long) intial lesson. Your only homework
538 > for this lesson is to look through the gimp menus, mouse over the
539 > tools in the toolbox to see their tooltips, and generally get
540 > familiar with how the app looks. Try opening an image, or maybe
541 > running some of the scripts in the Xtns menu. Have fun!
543 > Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload
544 > pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the web.
545 > _______________________________________________
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602 > I am a bit behind because I am battling to install GIMP.
604 > I have the following directory structure:
606 > HOME\GIMP\gimp-2.2.0
608 First question: is this on Windows? The backslashes made me wonder.
610 > Within gimp-2.2.0 I have the following subdirectories:
617 That looks like a list of other projects, not subdirectories within
618 gimp. The gimp source package has a lot more directories than that,
619 with names such as app, ata, etc, libgimp, libgimpbase. What you
620 have may be a collection of dependencies gimp needs, rather than
623 Where did you get your gimp 2.2.0 tarball? I built 2.2.3 yesterday
624 from a tarball I got by going to gimp.org, clicking on "Downloads",
625 then clicking on the ftp link: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.2/
626 gimp-2.2.3.tar.gz is the file I downloaded.
628 To build gimp you need quite a few other packages; even on my
629 system, which I thought was pretty up-to-date and had built earlier
630 versions of gimp, I had to add libpng-dev and a couple other -dev
631 packages. Looking through the messages configure spits out can
632 give clues as to what package you need (usually something-dev or
633 something-devel) but sometimes it's not obvious and you'll need
636 If you're on Linux, what distro? Is there no prebuilt gimp package,
637 or is it an old one and you're trying to update to a newer version?
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691 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
693 > For this course, you will need:
699 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
700 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
702 What do you mean by "digital images." I have some good scanned
703 images mostly from a 35mm but my digital camera is poor quality.
705 > Enough background ... let's get started!
707 BRB ..."man urpmi update..."
710 > Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload
711 > pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the web.
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764 > What do you mean by "digital images." I have some good scanned
765 > images mostly from a 35mm but my digital camera is poor quality.
767 Nearly any image will do.
769 Most of the exercises I'll be suggesting in the early lessons
770 will involve taking an existing image and doing something to it:
771 changing the size, changing brightness or colors, combining two
772 images, sharpening. So you'll need some raw material to start with.
773 It doesn't have to be wonderful quality, or any particular size,
774 and it's fine if it's downloaded from somewhere.
776 Thanks to those who posted suggestions for sites to get photos!
777 I'll collect these as a list and put the list up on the courses page.
779 Other possibilities are government sites: national park services
780 have lots of pretty scenic photos, fish & game departments
781 have animal photos, and space agencies like NASA and the Hubble
782 Space Telescope have photos of planets and astronomical objects.
783 Most of these are public domain, so you can use them to make images
784 and not have to worry about copyright restrictions.
786 CreativeCommons.org is another source for photos with generous
787 copyright allowances.
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856 On Tue, Jan 25, 2005, Akkana Peck wrote:
857 > Other possibilities are government sites: national park services have
858 > lots of pretty scenic photos, fish & game departments have animal
859 > photos, and space agencies like NASA and the Hubble Space Telescope
860 > have photos of planets and astronomical objects. Most of these are
861 > public domain, so you can use them to make images and not have to
862 > worry about copyright restrictions.
864 Just note that this is only really true for US government sites: other
865 governments do not have usually let or require that their employees
866 release things into the public domain like the US government does. For
867 example, the Australian government websites will normally keep copyright
868 and all associated rights on their images.
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918 Thank you very much for starting such a course, I
919 will try to participate in the course as long as
920 I can do:) And I want to recommend a site which
921 has really beautiful digital images:
922 http://www.fotokritik.com/index.php
924 the site is in Turkish but I think photos could
925 be used. Also I must add that the site is a photo
926 critise site so you can directly reach the photos
928 http://www.fotokritik.com/fotograflar.php
930 And also if you like the photos I try to help you
937 --- Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:=20
938 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
940 > Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
942 > What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU
944 > Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's
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1010 > Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox
1011 > window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners
1012 > immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this
1013 > course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
1015 How do I get this one to open by default again everytime Gimp starts up?
1019 http://xinetd.accosted.net/
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1068 On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 10:46:16PM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote:
1069 > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0800, Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
1071 > > The Layers Window
1072 > > Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox
1073 > > window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners
1074 > > immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this
1075 > > course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
1077 > How do I get this one to open by default again everytime Gimp starts up?
1080 <Toolbox>-->Dialogs-->Create New Dock-->Layers, Channels, Paths
1082 I have been trying to compile a section on my web site about how to
1083 configure, tweak, add styles to your widgets and anything else that
1084 might be helpful to people using TheGIMP. There is an enormous amount
1085 of pages there, and perhaps not so much information -- it is difficult
1086 to write things for everyone.
1088 I do not want to infringe on Akkana's Course, however if there are those
1089 with time to work through things there, I would appreciate suggestions.
1091 The web page there that specifically answers your question and maybe
1092 more is: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/basics/gui/docks-tabs.html
1093 there is some cute and perhaps helpful javascript on the page that is an
1094 attempt to show you in html what the gimp should do on your desktop.
1096 The whole section is:
1097 http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/basics/gui/ and well, I was inspired by
1098 Carla on another Course here to go ahead and make my opinions.
1100 I would really appreciate additional input from anyone involved with
1101 this course before making it more publically known.
1103 Also, forgive me if i am jumping ahead of things in Akkans plans. This
1104 stuff is about the widgets and the gui, tho. Not at all about using
1105 gimp as an art tool -- i dont think the information should hurt the
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1160 On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:57:30AM -0800, Carol Spears wrote:
1161 > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 10:46:16PM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote:
1162 > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0800, Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
1164 > > > The Layers Window
1165 > > > Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox
1166 > > > window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners
1167 > > > immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this
1168 > > > course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
1170 > > How do I get this one to open by default again everytime Gimp starts up?
1173 oops, back to the original question.
1175 unless you change something in the preferences, all the windows that are
1176 open when you last closed gimp (with the exception of Image Windows)
1177 should open the next time you start gimp again.
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1234 I've noticed that some of you are having probs with installation of
1235 GIMP. Even though it won't help you at all, I want to note that there is
1236 a fine windows version of GIMP. You just drop in the GTK+ libs and add
1237 GIMP on top of that (there is a full installation package on the web,
1238 http://www.gimp.org/windows/). The apps are identical.
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1242 many fields, which includes the requirement for WinXP workstations. Some
1243 of our designers wished to have Adobe Photoshop, and instead of that,
1244 they've got GIMP now. Works perfectly. Everyone's happy.
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1345 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:37:35 -0800
1346 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
1347 Subject: [Courses] Announce: GIMP course starting
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1352 [For people who didn't see the announcement last week on the Announce
1355 I'm starting a GIMP course, posting the first lesson tonight under the
1356 topic [gimp]. It's aimed specifically at beginners and near-beginners,
1357 but everyone is welcome. Come twiddle bits with us!
1362 ------------------------------
1365 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0800
1366 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
1367 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with the
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1373 Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
1375 Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
1377 What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU Image Manipulation
1378 Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's primary purpose.
1380 This course is aimed at people with an interest in image processing, but
1381 not much experience with actual image editing. But anyone is welcome!
1382 Feel free to ask questions, or jump in with discussion or corrections.
1383 And if you know an easier way to do something I talked about, don't
1384 hesitate to point it out!
1386 If you have a question like "How would I accomplish this thing that I
1387 can do in [proprietary app]?", feel free to ask, but keep in mind that
1388 not everyone may be familiar with the app.=20
1389 So describe what the function does, or post "before" and "after"
1390 images: don't just give the name of the function.
1392 For this course, you will need:
1393 - Access to a computer with GIMP installed.
1395 I will generally be using GIMP 2.2, the current version,
1396 for the examples. But since I realize a lot of people are
1397 using earlier versions, I'll try to give an idea where to look
1398 for things which might have moved around.
1400 If possible, try to use at least GIMP 2.0, since the user interface
1401 changed quite a bit from 1.2. But if you need to use 1.2, and can't
1402 find something, feel free to ask about it!
1406 - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
1407 scans, or images downloaded from the web.
1409 - Access to the internet, and willingness to share some of
1410 your creations. Each lesson will have "homework", where
1411 you're encouraged to produce an image using some of the
1412 techniques discussed. Please participate! Sharing images
1413 is fun, and I think students will have fun with it too.
1414 If nobody shares their images, I'll probably get demotivated
1415 and quit writing lessons. Fair warning. :-)
1417 If you have a web site to post your own images, that's ideal.
1418 If you don't have any web space, there are lots of places that
1419 offer free hosting of photos (the hook is usually that they hope
1420 you'll order prints from them). Try googling for something like:
1421 free photo "web site"
1423 Enough background ... let's get started! Start up the GIMP on your own
1424 machine, either from your system menus, by double-clicking the gimp
1425 icon, or by running "gimp" from the commandline. (You can also run
1426 "gimp file1.jpg file2.png ..." if you have a specific set of images to
1429 If you run gimp from the commandline, you may want to put an ampersand
1430 ("&") at the end of the line, so that gimp will run in the background,
1431 and you will be able to use your terminal for other things while gimp is
1432 running. Something like:
1433 gimp file1.jpg file2.png &
1435 Depending on version, GIMP will usually pop up several windows.
1436 Let's go through the important ones:
1440 This is the GIMP's main window: the titlebar just says "The GIMP.
1441 It has a very simple menubar, which you can use to call up functions
1442 that aren't specific to any particular image. Let's go over the three
1445 The toolbox File menu contains file operations such as Open a new image.
1446 It also has an Open Recent submenu, which you can use as a shortcut to
1447 revisit images which you've edited recently. This can be a real
1448 timesaver versus poking through the filesystem looking for where you
1449 stored the image. The File menu also includes Preferences (which I'll
1450 discuss in a later lesson), a Dialogs submenu which allows you to bring
1451 up or shoo away some of the GIMP's other dialogs, and Quit.
1453 The toolbox Xtns menu contains various scripts to do fun things.
1454 I'll discuss some of them in a later lesson; meanwhile, you might enjoy
1455 exploring the Python-Fu and Script-Fu submenus. There are tons of cool
1458 The Help menu brings up the GIMP's help system. The help system for
1459 GIMP 2.0 is based on gnome help, and unfortunately a lot of systems
1460 don't have all the necessary pieces installed. Try it, but if it
1461 doesn't work, don't panic. There's lots of GIMP help available online,
1462 and if you're in this course, then you have a place to ask questions
1463 about anything you're having problems with!
1465 Below the menubar, most of the GIMP toolbox is taken up by the "tool
1466 palette": small icons representing various GIMP tools. We'll talk about
1467 those tools in future courses. For now, if you move the mouse over a
1468 tool and stop there, you'll get a tooltip telling you what tool the icon
1469 represents. Feel free to play around with changing tools and experiment
1470 with what some of the tools do.
1472 Below the tool palette is a color selector, on the left, showing
1473 foreground and background color; and on the right, an area showing the
1474 currently selected brush, fill pattern, and gradient.
1475 These are used by the text tool and various drawing and painting tools;
1476 we'll be talking about them in future lessons. For now, clicking on
1477 them will bring up a dialog allowing you to change them.
1479 If you see anything else below the color/brush/pattern/gradient
1480 selectors, it probably means you have another dialog docked at the
1481 bottom of the toolbox window. Since this varies by user, anything which
1482 might be docked there will be discussed later.
1486 Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox window,
1487 is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners immediately
1488 close this window when they start GIMP; but in this course, we'll be
1489 using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
1493 Each image GIMP opens will have its own window. In GIMP 2.0 and 2.2,
1494 these windows have their own menubars across the top (this is
1495 configurable in Preferences); in 1.2, they don't. But in any version of
1496 GIMP, whether or not there's a menubar, you can always get to the image
1497 window menus by right-clicking inside the image window.
1501 Depending on your GIMP version, you may see other windows, such as Tool
1502 Options, Brushes, or Devices. We'll talk about those later, but for
1503 now, you don't need them.
1505 This concludes the (rather long) intial lesson. Your only homework for
1506 this lesson is to look through the gimp menus, mouse over the tools in
1507 the toolbox to see their tooltips, and generally get familiar with how
1508 the app looks. Try opening an image, or maybe running some of the
1509 scripts in the Xtns menu. Have fun!
1511 Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload
1512 pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the web.
1515 ------------------------------
1518 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:35:44 +0800
1519 From: Jacqueline McNally
1520 <jacqueline-linuxchix@decisions-and-designs.com.au>
1521 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with
1523 To: courses@linuxchix.org
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1529 I am looking forward to the course :)
1531 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
1532 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
1535 www.burningwell.org was a link that was sent to me just last week as
1536 there are a couple of contributors that I know who have submitted some
1539 These are public domain, so for people like me whose photographic skills
1540 are negligible, they will be fun to start playing with as Akkana guides
1541 us through using the GIMP.
1547 ------------------------------
1550 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:57:43 +0200
1551 From: "Anna Badimo" <anna@cs.wits.ac.za>
1552 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with
1554 To: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
1555 Cc: courses@linuxchix.org
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1561 I am a bit behind because I am battling to install GIMP.=20
1563 I have the following directory structure:
1565 HOME\GIMP\gimp-2.2.0
1567 Within gimp-2.2.0 I have the following subdirectories:
1574 The libraries are in:
1575 usr/lib/ and usr/include
1577 The INSTALL file says I must do the following:
1578 % tar xvfz gimp-2.2.x.tar.gz # unpack the sources
1579 % cd gimp-2.2.x # change to the toplevel directory
1580 % ./configure # run the `configure' script
1581 % make # build the GIMP
1582 % make install # install the GIMP
1584 When I type ./configure, I get the message "Command not found" even when
1585 I type the full pathname.
1587 Please help and thanks in advance. I don't want to miss a session.
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1598 To: courses@linuxchix.org
1599 Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0800
1600 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with the GIMP
1602 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
1604 > Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
1606 > What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU Image Manipulation=20
1607 > Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's primary purpose.
1609 > This course is aimed at people with an interest in image processing,=20
1610 > but not much experience with actual image editing. But anyone is=20
1611 > welcome! Feel free to ask questions, or jump in with discussion or=20
1612 > corrections. And if you know an easier way to do something I talked=20
1613 > about, don't hesitate to point it out!
1615 > If you have a question like "How would I accomplish this thing that I=20
1616 > can do in [proprietary app]?", feel free to ask, but keep in mind that
1618 > not everyone may be familiar with the app.
1619 > So describe what the function does, or post "before" and "after"
1620 > images: don't just give the name of the function.
1622 > For this course, you will need:
1623 > - Access to a computer with GIMP installed.
1625 > I will generally be using GIMP 2.2, the current version,
1626 > for the examples. But since I realize a lot of people are
1627 > using earlier versions, I'll try to give an idea where to look
1628 > for things which might have moved around.
1630 > If possible, try to use at least GIMP 2.0, since the user interface
1631 > changed quite a bit from 1.2. But if you need to use 1.2, and can't
1633 > find something, feel free to ask about it!
1637 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
1638 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
1640 > - Access to the internet, and willingness to share some of
1641 > your creations. Each lesson will have "homework", where
1642 > you're encouraged to produce an image using some of the
1643 > techniques discussed. Please participate! Sharing images
1644 > is fun, and I think students will have fun with it too.
1645 > If nobody shares their images, I'll probably get demotivated
1646 > and quit writing lessons. Fair warning. :-)
1648 > If you have a web site to post your own images, that's ideal.
1649 > If you don't have any web space, there are lots of places that
1650 > offer free hosting of photos (the hook is usually that they hope
1651 > you'll order prints from them). Try googling for something like:
1652 > free photo "web site"
1654 > Enough background ... let's get started! Start up the GIMP on your=20
1655 > own machine, either from your system menus, by double-clicking the=20
1656 > gimp icon, or by running "gimp" from the commandline. (You can also=20
1657 > run "gimp file1.jpg file2.png ..." if you have a specific set of=20
1660 > If you run gimp from the commandline, you may want to put an ampersand
1661 > ("&") at the end of the line, so that gimp will run in the background,
1663 > and you will be able to use your terminal for other things while gimp=20
1664 > is running. Something like: gimp file1.jpg file2.png &
1666 > Depending on version, GIMP will usually pop up several windows.
1667 > Let's go through the important ones:
1669 > The Toolbox Window
1671 > This is the GIMP's main window: the titlebar just says "The GIMP.
1672 > It has a very simple menubar, which you can use to call up functions=20
1673 > that aren't specific to any particular image. Let's go over the three
1677 > The toolbox File menu contains file operations such as Open a new
1679 > It also has an Open Recent submenu, which you can use as a shortcut to
1681 > revisit images which you've edited recently. This can be a real=20
1682 > timesaver versus poking through the filesystem looking for where you=20
1683 > stored the image. The File menu also includes Preferences (which I'll
1685 > discuss in a later lesson), a Dialogs submenu which allows you to=20
1686 > bring up or shoo away some of the GIMP's other dialogs, and Quit.
1688 > The toolbox Xtns menu contains various scripts to do fun things.
1689 > I'll discuss some of them in a later lesson; meanwhile, you might=20
1690 > enjoy exploring the Python-Fu and Script-Fu submenus. There are tons=20
1691 > of cool scripts in there.
1693 > The Help menu brings up the GIMP's help system. The help system for=20
1694 > GIMP 2.0 is based on gnome help, and unfortunately a lot of systems=20
1695 > don't have all the necessary pieces installed. Try it, but if it=20
1696 > doesn't work, don't panic. There's lots of GIMP help available=20
1697 > online, and if you're in this course, then you have a place to ask=20
1698 > questions about anything you're having problems with!
1700 > Below the menubar, most of the GIMP toolbox is taken up by the "tool
1701 > palette": small icons representing various GIMP tools. We'll talk=20
1702 > about those tools in future courses. For now, if you move the mouse=20
1703 > over a tool and stop there, you'll get a tooltip telling you what tool
1705 > the icon represents. Feel free to play around with changing tools and
1707 > experiment with what some of the tools do.
1709 > Below the tool palette is a color selector, on the left, showing=20
1710 > foreground and background color; and on the right, an area showing the
1712 > currently selected brush, fill pattern, and gradient. These are used=20
1713 > by the text tool and various drawing and painting tools; we'll be=20
1714 > talking about them in future lessons. For now, clicking on them will=20
1715 > bring up a dialog allowing you to change them.
1717 > If you see anything else below the color/brush/pattern/gradient=20
1718 > selectors, it probably means you have another dialog docked at the=20
1719 > bottom of the toolbox window. Since this varies by user, anything=20
1720 > which might be docked there will be discussed later.
1724 > Another window which GIMP will show, in addition to the toolbox=20
1725 > window, is the Layers, Channels, and Paths window. Most beginners=20
1726 > immediately close this window when they start GIMP; but in this=20
1727 > course, we'll be using it, so I encourage you to leave it open.
1731 > Each image GIMP opens will have its own window. In GIMP 2.0 and 2.2,=20
1732 > these windows have their own menubars across the top (this is=20
1733 > configurable in Preferences); in 1.2, they don't. But in any version=20
1734 > of GIMP, whether or not there's a menubar, you can always get to the=20
1735 > image window menus by right-clicking inside the image window.
1739 > Depending on your GIMP version, you may see other windows, such as=20
1740 > Tool Options, Brushes, or Devices. We'll talk about those later, but=20
1741 > for now, you don't need them.
1743 > This concludes the (rather long) intial lesson. Your only homework=20
1744 > for this lesson is to look through the gimp menus, mouse over the=20
1745 > tools in the toolbox to see their tooltips, and generally get familiar
1747 > with how the app looks. Try opening an image, or maybe running some=20
1748 > of the scripts in the Xtns menu. Have fun!
1750 > Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload=20
1751 > pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the
1753 > _______________________________________________
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1761 ------------------------------
1764 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:46:00 -0500
1765 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
1766 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with
1768 To: courses@linuxchix.org
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1773 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
1775 > For this course, you will need:
1781 > - Access to some digital images: from a digital camera,
1782 > scans, or images downloaded from the web.
1784 What do you mean by "digital images." I have some good scanned images
1785 mostly from a 35mm but my digital camera is poor quality.
1787 > Enough background ... let's get started!=20
1789 BRB ..."man urpmi update..."
1792 > Next lesson: Basic Photo Editing. Stuff you'll want if you upload=20
1793 > pictures from your camera and want to crop and resize them for the
1800 ------------------------------
1803 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:03:51 +0000 (GMT)
1804 From: Rahime Unver <ra_unver@yahoo.co.uk>
1805 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with
1807 To: courses@linuxchix.org
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1813 Thank you very much for starting such a course, I will try to
1814 participate in the course as long as I can do:) And I want to recommend
1815 a site which has really beautiful digital images:
1816 http://www.fotokritik.com/index.php
1818 the site is in Turkish but I think photos could be used. Also I must add
1819 that the site is a photo critise site so you can directly reach the
1820 photos from following link:
1821 http://www.fotokritik.com/fotograflar.php
1823 And also if you like the photos I try to help you about the language.
1825 Thanks again Akkana.
1829 --- Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:=20
1830 > Welcome to "GIMP for beginners"!
1832 > Lesson 0: Get familiar with the GIMP.
1834 > What is the GIMP? The name stands for "the GNU Image Manipulation=20
1835 > Program", and image manipulation is the GIMP's primary purpose.
1843 ___________________________________________________________
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1851 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:03:59 +0200
1852 From: "kristi" <kristi@erdves.lt>
1853 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 0: Welcome! Get Familiar with the
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1862 I've noticed that some of you are having probs with installation of
1863 GIMP. Even though it won't help you at all, I want to note that there is
1864 a fine windows version of GIMP. You just drop in the GTK+ libs and add
1865 GIMP on top of that (there is a full installation package on the web,
1866 http://www.gimp.org/windows/). The apps are identical.
1868 I have actually successfully adopted it at work. Being a big
1869 international organization, we have to follow general IT regulations in
1870 many fields, which includes the requirement for WinXP workstations. Some
1871 of our designers wished to have Adobe Photoshop, and instead of that,
1872 they've got GIMP now. Works perfectly. Everyone's happy.
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2007 In this lesson I'll cover cropping and scaling: the important
2008 operations you'll need when you upload some digital camera pictures
2009 and want to put them on the web, or when you download a large image
2010 and want to resize it or only keep part of it.
2012 Let's begin with a common problem. You have an image which you want
2013 to put on a web site to share with your friends. But the image is
2014 three megapixels, half a megabyte of space, and it takes forever for
2015 your friends to download it! Plus it has some elements that could be
2016 improved -- extra space around the subject that doesn't need to be
2017 there, or your thumb in a corner of the frame. :-)
2019 The very first step is to copy your image. You don't want to
2020 overwrite your lovely original image accidentally, so it's usually
2021 safest to make a copy of the image (using cp or your normal file
2022 manager) and edit the copy.
2024 Remember, if you don't have your own images handy, you can download
2025 something from the web to use for experimenting. For a few sources for
2026 raw material, see: http://linuxchix.org/content/courses/gimp/rawmaterial
2028 Once you have your image selected, open it in gimp.
2029 Either run gimp and use the File->Open dialog from the toolbox,
2030 or, from a command line, run: gimp myphoto.jpg
2034 The first tool we'll use is the Crop tool. Its purpose is to let
2035 you pick out a rectangular area of the image which you want to keep,
2036 and discard everything else.
2038 The Crop tool's icon in the toolbox looks like a little knife or
2039 scalpel, and its tooltip when you mouse over it says "Crop or Resize
2040 an image". Click on the knife icon in the toolbox to select the tool.
2041 The button will change to appear "pressed in", but nothing else happens
2042 immediately when you select a tool, until you click in the image.
2044 Now go to the image window, and move the mouse to the upper left
2045 corner of the part of the image you want to keep. Press the left
2046 button down, then drag the mouse (holding the button down) to the
2047 lower right of what you want to keep, and release the button.
2049 Don't worry about getting the boundaries exactly right: you'll be able
2050 to make adjustments.
2052 As soon as you mouse down in the image window, the Crop and Resize
2053 dialog will pop up. Exactly where it appears on the screen is
2054 controlled by your window manager, but most people find that it has an
2055 uncanny knack for being right in the way of the part of the image
2056 you're trying to crop. So once you drag and release, you may have to
2057 move the dialog aside so you can see what you're doing. This is
2058 normal. Swearing a little is also normal. :-)
2060 Once you've moved the dialog aside, you should see a box with
2061 filled-in rectangles each corner. These are the crop tool's "drag
2062 handles": you can adjust the size and position of the box by dragging
2063 these handles around. The upper left and lower right drag handles
2064 adjust the size of the box; the upper right and lower left handles
2065 move the whole box without changing the size. Play with that now.
2066 Don't worry too much if you forget which is which: you can see the
2067 box as you adjust it, so if you drag the wrong handle, just drag it
2068 back to where it was and pick a different one.
2070 Once you've adjusted the boundaries to your satisfaction, it's time
2071 to look at the Crop and Resize dialog. The dialog has three buttons:
2072 Cancel, Resize, and Crop.
2074 The Crop button in the dialog will crop the image, discarding the
2075 rest. Try it now, and see what it does! If you don't like the
2076 result, you can always Undo by selecting Edit->Undo, or by typing
2077 Ctrl-Z. That's an important feature of gimp: Ctrl-Z (or Edit->Undo)
2078 can always undo the last operation, so it's safe to try something
2079 even if you're not sure if it's exactly right. Go ahead and try
2080 that now: press the Crop button, then Undo the crop, then Edit->Redo
2083 Pressing the Resize button in the crop dialog does something similar
2084 but subtly different: it changes the image size, without changing the
2085 size of the visible layer (we'll talk about layers in an upcoming
2086 lesson). For now, I recommend not using it: use the Crop button
2087 (or Cancel) and ignore the Resize button until later when you're
2088 comfortable using layers. Even then, you may find you don't use
2089 Resize in the crop dialog very often (I never do).
2091 Once you have the image cropped the way you want it, you may want to
2092 Save (Ctrl-S) so you don't lose your work in case of an emergency like
2095 Now I'll talk about making your image smaller for the web, but first,
2098 Zooming, and Current Image Size
2100 In the GIMP image window, unless your image is very small, GIMP
2101 is probably showing your image smaller than its full size. You
2102 can tell by looking at the image window's titlebar, which shows
2103 the current zoom percentage. If it says 100%, you're seeing your
2104 image as other people would see it. If it says anything else,
2107 In GIMP 2.2, there's a zoom menu in the lower left of the image
2108 window. Everyone else (including 2.2), use the View->Zoom menu
2109 (GIMP 1.2 users, right-click in the image window to see your menus).
2110 But a faster way is to use key bindings: - zooms out (makes the image
2111 smaller), + or =, depending on GIMP version, zooms in; and typing '1'
2112 in the image window will always scale the image to 100%, full size.
2114 You may notice that the window doesn't get bigger and smaller when
2115 you zoom in; it just shows scrollbars or blank space. If you want
2116 the window to change size when you zoom, go back to the toolbox
2117 window, select File->Preferences, click on the Image Windows category,
2118 and check "Resize Window on Zoom". Gimp 1.2 users will have to click
2119 Save for this to be remembered; everyone else, hit OK.
2123 You've cropped your image, but it's still too big to put on the web.
2124 Usually, you want to keep web images under 640 pixels or so in the
2125 largest dimension, because they'll take too long to download, and they
2126 may not fit on most people's screens. Images embedded in a web page
2127 (e.g. thumbnails) need to be much smaller still, maybe only 150-250
2128 pixels. How do you make a big image smaller?
2130 You might be tempted to look for a menu item called "Resize": some
2131 other applications use that term. But in the GIMP, what you need is
2132 to "Scale" the image. ("Resize" means something else, less useful.)
2134 Scale is in the menus, not the toolbox. Right-click on the image
2135 to get a menu (if you're using GIMP 2, you can use the menubar at
2136 the top of the image window) and select Image->Scale Image...
2137 A dialog will appear showing the current size of the image.
2139 The Scale dialog has two sections: Pixel Dimensions, and Print Size.
2140 Don't get confused by these! Pixel Dimensions are the size of the
2141 image in pixels: for example, 640 wide by 480 high for a typical large
2142 web image, or 1600 wide by 1200 high for a 2 megapixel camera image.
2143 Pixel dimensions are almost always what you care about.
2145 (Print Size is a an imaginary number indicating what paper size you
2146 might someday want to use to print the image, if you printed it using
2147 some program other than GIMP. I recommend ignoring it entirely.)
2149 Returning to the Pixel Dimensions section of the Scale dialog:
2150 the dialog shows two pairs of adjustments, for Width and Height,
2151 and Ratio X and Y. GIMP will attempt to keep the image's aspect
2152 ratio -- its ratio of width to height -- constant, unless you tell it
2153 otherwise. So changing only width, or only Y ratio, then hitting tab
2154 or clicking in another field, will change all of the fields in the
2155 Pixel Dimensions section.
2157 Try it now! Try changing the Width to 600, then hitting tab. Or try
2158 scaling the image to half its current size, by changing either Ratio X
2159 or Ratio Y to .5, then hitting tab. If you click on OK you can see
2160 what the size looks like. If you don't like what it looks like,
2161 that's a good excuse to try the ever-useful Edit->Undo menu. :-)
2163 On the rare occasion when you want to change an image's aspect ratio
2164 -- make the picture look shorter and fatter, or taller and thinner --
2165 clicking the small "chain link" icon next to Ratio X and Y (the icon
2166 will change to a broken link) will decouple the width and height, so
2167 that you can change them independantly.
2169 Homework: Take a large image, crop it, and resize it to a reasonable
2172 Next lesson: Image corrections. Lightening, darkening, and sharpening.
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2200 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 1: Cropping and Rescaling an Image
2201 From: "Kathryn Hogg" <kjh@flyballdogs.com>
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2237 I accidentally sent a reply to akk and not the courses list. Sorry!
2240 > Kathryn Hogg writes:
2241 >> Since akk wants us to post our work, here's a an original image
2242 >> http://womensfooty.com/bombshells/photos/kathryn/scan0002.CROPtop.jpg
2245 >> and here's my cropped and scaled version
2246 >> http://womensfooty.com/bk.jpg (10KB)
2248 > Yay, thanks! Cool pic, too.
2250 > Did you mean to post that to the group? It looks like it was just
2251 > to me. The comment about selection and Image->Crop Image might
2252 > be helpful for other people to know about too (though I agree
2253 > the crop tool is probably easier once you get used to it).
2255 What akk is talking about is that before this great course started, I
2256 would fuddle around in gimp. When I wanted to crop an image, I would use
2257 the selection tool and then Image->Crop Image menu item. It works but th=
2259 selection tool doesn't allow you to make changes like the Crop tool.
2262 >> I don't know if this jumping ahead or not, but sometimes I find that I
2263 >> want to make the image bigger but not scale what is there. I want to
2264 >> leave the current image exactly as is but give myself more working roo=
2268 > It's getting a little ahead, but that's okay. Image->Canvas Size is
2269 > what you want for that. But that doesn't scale the layer, just the
2270 > image, so then you need to do "layer to imagesize" or make another
2271 > layer that's as big as the image's new size. (I'll be talking about
2272 > layers soon, probably in lesson 3.)
2274 Looking forward to it!
2279 http://womensfooty.com
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2309 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Lesson 1: Cropping and Rescaling an Image
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2346 Just minutes after doing lesson 1. I got an email from someone who was
2347 sending me a photo for inclusion on my website.
2349 http://www.flyballdogs.com/photos/rocky.html
2351 That page has the cropped and resized image. It links to the full sized
2356 http://womensfooty.com
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2408 > What akk is talking about is that before this great course started, I
2409 > would fuddle around in gimp. When I wanted to crop an image, I would use
2410 > the selection tool and then Image->Crop Image menu item. It works but the
2411 > selection tool doesn't allow you to make changes like the Crop tool.
2413 I was doing worse : use the selection tool, copy, then paste as new
2414 image. The crop tool was a revelation in this lesson :)
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2468 > Kathryn Hogg wrote:
2470 >>When I wanted to crop an image, I would use the selection tool and
2471 >>then Image->Crop Image menu item.
2474 > I was doing worse : use the selection tool, copy, then paste as new
2475 > image. The crop tool was a revelation in this lesson :)
2478 I was doing the same!
2479 My other revelation was the two different functions of the selection
2480 handles. Somewhere in the back of my mind I think I thought dragging to
2481 change the size of the selection just "didn't work" some of the time. LOL
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2541 > But a faster way is to use key bindings: - zooms out (makes the image
2542 > smaller), + or =, depending on GIMP version, zooms in; and typing '1'
2543 > in the image window will always scale the image to 100%, full size.
2545 I've been fooling with this, and I think I've got it, but I had some
2546 problems. At first typing 1 in the image window didn't work at all, so
2547 I tried '1' with the single quotes, and it jumped to full size before
2548 the final '. Then I couldn't figure out how to get it to go back.
2549 There doesn't seem to be an "undo" for that one. Finally I hit on
2550 typing - several times, and that seemed to bring it back. Fumbling
2551 efforts at best. :-)
2553 Also for me, in 2.0, the key bindings seem to be + and -, not + and =.
2554 Was this a typo, or am I weird?
2556 > Try it now! Try changing the Width to 600, then hitting tab.
2558 I sorta forgot the tab, and found by accident that you can change the
2559 width to 600 and click OK and the other numbers will change then, right
2560 before the image changes. Either tab or no tab seems to work fine.
2562 This is fun. I've got to get out there and take pictures to mess with!
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2614 Patricia Peck writes:
2615 > I've been fooling with this, and I think I've got it, but I had some
2616 > problems. At first typing 1 in the image window didn't work at all, so
2617 > I tried '1' with the single quotes, and it jumped to full size before
2618 > the final '. Then I couldn't figure out how to get it to go back.
2620 The quotes aren't needed. I shouldn't have included them --
2621 that was confusing. Just hit the 1 key in the image window to
2622 zoom the image to full size.
2624 If it wasn't working before, it's possible that the image window
2625 wasn't focused. Depending on how you have your window manager set
2626 up, you may need to click in a window before keys you type go to
2627 that window. Most window managers turn the frame of the active
2628 window a different color from other windows, so you can know which
2629 one will get any characters you type.
2631 > There doesn't seem to be an "undo" for that one. Finally I hit on
2633 Zooming is just a view, not anything you change in the image.
2634 So Undo doesn't affect it. But you can always zoom in or out
2635 with the View->Zoom menu or with the keys.
2637 > Also for me, in 2.0, the key bindings seem to be + and -, not + and =.
2638 > Was this a typo, or am I weird?
2640 Not a typo, but maybe I wasn't clear. - always zooms out.
2641 To zoom in, it's either + or =, depending on what version of
2642 gimp you're using. On most US keyboards, + and = are on the
2643 same key; the only difference is whether you have to hit shift
2644 or not. Early versions of gimp used = instead of + because it's
2645 easier not to have to press the shift key; but they changed that
2646 in later versions of gimp, perhaps because it's easier on some
2649 But if you don't like the bindings, you can change them!
2650 I was saving that for a later lesson, but I'll mention it now
2651 because it's so nifty. In gimp, if you pull up a menu for
2652 something you do often that doesn't have a key binding already,
2653 move the mouse over the menu item (but don't click), then hit
2654 the key you want to use (e.g. hit = or + or whatever), the
2655 binding for that function magically changes! You can see
2656 it change in the menu as you type the key.
2658 This works automatically in gimp 1.2. Gimp 2 still has this,
2659 but it's harder to find: go into Preferences, click on Interface,
2660 and check "Use Dynamic Keyboard Shortcuts". Now you can go
2661 back to the menu and assign keys to any function.
2663 > >Try it now! Try changing the Width to 600, then hitting tab.
2665 > I sorta forgot the tab, and found by accident that you can change the
2666 > width to 600 and click OK and the other numbers will change then, right
2667 > before the image changes. Either tab or no tab seems to work fine.
2669 Yes, absolutely! I didn't mean to imply that you *have* to hit tab;
2670 you can change one number and hit OK right away. I usually hit tab
2671 just to make sure all the numbers look kosher, before I hit OK,
2672 but it's not actually needed.
2674 > This is fun. I've got to get out there and take pictures to mess with!
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2734 > If it wasn't working before, it's possible that the image window
2737 Ah, I'll bet that was it. I've tried it a few more times, making sure
2738 it was focused on the image windows, and it works fine.
2740 > Not a typo, but maybe I wasn't clear. - always zooms out.
2741 > To zoom in, it's either + or =, depending on what version of
2742 > gimp you're using.
2744 Okay, got it, thanks.
2746 > In gimp, if you pull up a menu for
2747 > something you do often that doesn't have a key binding already,
2748 > move the mouse over the menu item (but don't click), then hit
2749 > the key you want to use (e.g. hit = or + or whatever), the
2750 > binding for that function magically changes! You can see
2751 > it change in the menu as you type the key.
2753 > This works automatically in gimp 1.2. Gimp 2 still has this,
2754 > but it's harder to find: go into Preferences, click on Interface,
2755 > and check "Use Dynamic Keyboard Shortcuts". Now you can go
2756 > back to the menu and assign keys to any function.
2759 Oh, this is nifty! Good tip! Too bad they made it harder in v.2, though.
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2814 Hi Akkana & everyone;
2816 I started with two photos I took 31 December 2004, returning from a
2817 visit to my granddaughter (who might appear in subsequent lessons ;)
2818 ). These landscapes were both taken at a designated "scenic overlook"
2819 looking south at the Tennessee/North Carolina border on US Hwy 23.
2820 They're in the following web directory:
2822 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson1/
2824 The originals are ./004_1.jpg and ./007_4.jpg and are very large, about
2825 400Kb, and anyone who would like to is welcome to use them. (Two other
2826 large (over 400Kb) mountain scene images are in that directory and you
2827 are welcome to use those as well)
2829 The finals are ./01f.jpg and ./02.jpg, with a transitory ./01.jpg in
2830 between cropping & scaling the first one.
2832 ./004_1.jpg(390.8k) cropped to ./01.jpg(49.7k)
2834 ./01.jpg(1472 x 504) scaled to ./01f.jpg(736 x 252 & 11.4k)
2836 ./007_4.jpg(1536 x 1024 & 403.9Kb) cropped & scaled to ./02.jpg(575 x
2839 Probably much more information than you wanted!
2848 > Homework: Take a large image, crop it, and resize it to a reasonable
2851 > Next lesson: Image corrections. Lightening, darkening, and sharpening.
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2908 Akkana: Thanks for doing this course, I have tried to learn GIMP on my
2909 own for some time now, and I'm hoping this can get me started for real!
2912 For the first homework I used an image of the harbour in Bergen taken
2915 You can see the pictures here:
2916 http://home.no.net/tuttings/
2918 When I saved the cropped&scaled image, I was asked what quality I
2919 wanted. (Default was 85.) How does this value affect the final image? It
2920 didn't seem to me to make much of a difference, but maybe I don't know
2923 Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next lesson!
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2982 On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:02:50 +0100, Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg
2983 <kjersti.b.berg@start.no> wrote:
2986 > Akkana: Thanks for doing this course, I have tried to learn GIMP on my
2987 > own for some time now, and I'm hoping this can get me started for real!
2990 > For the first homework I used an image of the harbour in Bergen taken
2993 > You can see the pictures here:
2994 > http://home.no.net/tuttings/
2997 ____________________________________
2998 Here is a cropped and rescaled picture of my friend Merckle.
2999 http://www.silbsd.org/beastie/merckle2.jpg
3001 I have a few questions though. I first saved the original photo as a
3002 GIMP *.xcf file. Then I did the cropping and rescaling. That resulted
3003 in the above image. I also tried the "resize" setting, which is part
3004 of the crop tool (scalpel), and found that I could not save the image
3007 "Your image should be exported before it can be saved for the
3009 JPEG can't handle transparency"
3011 What is the purpose of resizing or are you going to cover that later?
3013 Also I saved the same image as a *.png but the *.png is much larger
3014 than the *.jpg (44k vs 409k) despite the fact that the quality appears
3015 to be about the same. Is the *.jpg format that much better than *.png
3016 ? The *.png is here: http://www.silbsd.org/beastie/merckle2A.png
3017 Both were saved from the same *.xcf file.
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3085 On Sun, Jan 30, 2005, Jon Drews wrote:
3086 > "Your image should be exported before it can be saved for the
3087 > following reasons:
3088 > JPEG can't handle transparency"
3090 > What is the purpose of resizing or are you going to cover that later?
3092 When I do this, one of the options beneath the error message is
3093 something like "Export Now" and you can just select it and it will save
3094 to JPEG. I'll post a screenshot when I get home.
3096 GIMP images support all kinds of options, including things like
3097 transparency, layers (separate image bits piled on top of each other
3098 which can be edited separately and switched around) and so on. Most
3099 formats won't support all of them (xcf does for fairly obvious reasons
3100 -- why have a custom format especially for the GIMP that doesn't?), so
3101 you will quite frequently need to export images in order to save them in
3102 the format you want.
3104 The exporter is fairly sensible: it will do things like turn transparent
3105 areas into your default background colour in formats that can't handle
3106 transparency; and merge all the layers into one for formats that can't
3109 Keep in mind that most image formats are "lossy" -- that is, they do not
3110 store the exact state of every pixel, they store an approximation based
3111 on regions. If you want to do extended work on a single image, it's
3112 sometimes worth saving a copy in a lossless format (XCF is best if
3113 you're always going to work with the GIMP) and exporting a copy for your
3114 website or whatever each time.
3116 > Also I saved the same image as a *.png but the *.png is much larger
3117 > than the *.jpg (44k vs 409k) despite the fact that the quality appears
3118 > to be about the same. Is the *.jpg format that much better than *.png
3119 > ? The *.png is here: http://www.silbsd.org/beastie/merckle2A.png
3120 > Both were saved from the same *.xcf file.
3122 They have different purposes.
3124 *.jpg: JPEG is a lossy format optimised for storing photos (and other
3125 images with regions of shading rather than blocks of colour) in a small
3128 *.png: PNG is a lossless format optimised for storing images with large
3129 blocks of a single colour (as an example, imagine a flow chart or
3130 diagram with lots of blue boxes or something) in a small amount of
3133 So, for a photo, yes, the JPEG version will usually be much smaller. the
3134 PNG algorithm isn't designed to compress regions with similar shadings
3135 like most photos have, it's designed to compress regions where all the
3136 pixels are exactly the same colour.
3138 Another couple of common ones:
3140 *.tiff: TIFF is a lossless format sometimes used for storing photos if
3141 you want an exact copy each time. Some digital cameras and scanner
3142 software produce these. People will usually convert to JPEG before
3143 putting these photos on the web: TIFF files are much larger than JPEGs.
3145 *.gif: GIF is an older format which has roughly the same use as PNG. It
3146 has better support than PNG in old web browsers, but was patented for a
3147 long time and may still be in some countries. Because it was actually
3148 illegal for software to produce GIF files without paying royalties,
3149 there was a big push a while back for Free Software users to adopt PNG
3150 instead. The PNG format is also meant to be technically superior, but I
3151 don't know exactly why.
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3174 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Exporting and image formats
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3205 On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:22:22AM +1100, Mary wrote:
3207 > The exporter is fairly sensible: it will do things like turn transparent
3208 > areas into your default background colour in formats that can't handle
3209 > transparency; and merge all the layers into one for formats that can't
3212 <snipped because i am going to talk about pngs>
3214 > *.png: PNG is a lossless format optimised for storing images with large
3215 > blocks of a single colour (as an example, imagine a flow chart or
3216 > diagram with lots of blue boxes or something) in a small amount of
3221 > *.gif: GIF is an older format which has roughly the same use as PNG. It
3222 > has better support than PNG in old web browsers, but was patented for a
3223 > long time and may still be in some countries. Because it was actually
3224 > illegal for software to produce GIF files without paying royalties,
3225 > there was a big push a while back for Free Software users to adopt PNG
3226 > instead. The PNG format is also meant to be technically superior, but I
3227 > don't know exactly why.
3229 png is a wonderful format because it handles so many different types of
3230 image information presented in many different ways. png can is a pita
3231 (especially for beginners) because it handles so many different types of
3232 image information presented in different ways.
3234 Jon's problem earlier with the image that could not be saved as a jpeg
3235 but could be saved as a png is a good example of the png flexibility.
3236 transparency is an images ability to have transparent areas displayed.
3237 and i really meant ability in that last sentence because Jon's problem
3238 with the size of the png is because he also saved the images ability to
3239 display transparent even though there probably were no transparent
3242 (similar, i am going to use my old armenian friends way of calling
3243 everyone "he" when in need of a pronoun ....)
3245 so png is technically superior. it allows itself to be saved with this
3246 transparent color ability (probably akkana will be explaining this in
3247 future courses) or without it. it allows itself to be saved in
3248 different modes (also probably in future courses) like "indexed" or
3249 "RGB" or "grayscale". the ease of saving these files does nothing to
3250 help users know things to do to make the file smaller. it also saves
3251 images with actual transparent areas in a simple and often ugly way like
3252 gifs do or beautifully, as gifs cannot do.
3254 the simple fix for Jon's problem was to <Image>->Image->Flatten Image
3255 before saving. i dont know if this made the png smaller than the jpeg
3256 of the same format, i do know that the flattened png is much smaller
3257 than the unflattened png.
3259 btw, that akkana, he is doing a wonderful job with this course. i am
3260 anxious to read his next installation.
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3317 >> *.gif: GIF is an older format which has roughly the same use as PNG. It
3318 >> has better support than PNG in old web browsers, but was patented for a
3319 >> long time and may still be in some countries. Because it was actually
3320 >> illegal for software to produce GIF files without paying royalties,
3321 >> there was a big push a while back for Free Software users to adopt PNG
3322 >> instead. The PNG format is also meant to be technically superior, but I
3323 >> don't know exactly why.
3328 **obediently trots off to replace gifs with pngs**
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3388 It's so much fun seeing everybody's images! It occurred to me that
3389 I'm not being quite fair -- I should share homework too. I'll give
3390 samples starting with the next lesson. In the meantime, I put up
3391 an image from a hike a few months ago:
3392 Original: http://shallowsky.com/images/percwoodduck/pb161742-orig.jpg
3393 Cropped+resized: http://shallowsky.com/images/percwoodduck/pb161742.jpg
3395 Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg writes:
3396 > When I saved the cropped&scaled image, I was asked what quality I
3397 > wanted. (Default was 85.) How does this value affect the final image? I=
3399 > didn't seem to me to make much of a difference, but maybe I don't know
3402 The jpeg format uses a compression which tries to get rid of parts
3403 of the image most people won't notice anyway. As you compress the
3404 image smaller and smaller, the changes gradually get more noticable.
3406 GIMP's current default of 85 is a good compromise for making the
3407 images reasonably small to download, while still looking quite good
3408 to almost everyone. I usually leave the setting the way it is when
3409 I'm saving images for my photo pages. But sometimes I use more
3410 compression: if I'm making an icon for a web page that I think a
3411 lot of people will visit, I might try to make it really small,
3412 or if I'm making a screenshot or some other large image that
3413 doesn't have to look good, just has to get a basic idea across.
3415 If you have time, it's fun to take an image and use "Save As" to
3416 save as jpg with lots of different compression settings, then view
3417 all those images and see how they differ. You can also google for
3418 "jpeg quality" and find some pages with example images.
3421 > and found that I could not save the image
3422 > to *.jpg. It said:
3424 > "Your image should be exported before it can be saved for the
3425 > following reasons:
3426 > JPEG can't handle transparency"
3428 > Also I saved the same image as a *.png but the *.png is much larger
3430 Mary already posted a very complete answer, so I won't try to
3431 add any more, except that if you're curious about image formats
3432 in general, I wrote up a little primer a while ago about some
3433 of the image formats and what they're good for. A lot of the
3434 info is similar to Mary's posting, but in any case it's:
3435 http://shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html
3437 Bottom line: I use png for originals, like scans, jpg for photos
3438 on the web, and xcf (gimp's native format) for images to which I've
3439 added extra information, like layers or text.
3441 > What is the purpose of resizing or are you going to cover that later?
3443 It becomes a lot more useful when you use layers, which I'll talk
3444 about soon. I actually don't personally use the crop tool to resize
3445 even with layers; I use Image->Canvas Size. But I'll describe that
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3501 > Hi Akkana & everyone;
3503 > I started with two photos I took 31 December 2004, returning from a
3504 > visit to my granddaughter (who might appear in subsequent lessons ;)
3505 > ). These landscapes were both taken at a designated "scenic overlook"
3506 > looking south at the Tennessee/North Carolina border on US Hwy 23.
3507 > They're in the following web directory:
3509 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson1/
3512 I've changed the url to
3514 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/#lesson1
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3574 After a long weekend of car shopping, I finally sat down to do my homework ^_~
3576 Here's the original image:
3577 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/moonlight.jpg
3580 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/moonlight-crop.jpg
3582 And here's the scale:
3583 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/moonlight-scaled.jpg
3585 In the middle of this, I realized something that bugs me - Gimp is
3586 erasing the Exif data from my images when I save them. Apparently,
3587 it's a known bug, and may actually be specific to Gimp in Windows.
3588 Still...... I like being able to look back at my pictures and see what
3589 shutter speed and aperture I used to get that effect.
3593 From akkana@shallowsky.com Mon Jan 31 15:23:51 2005
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3611 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
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3613 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] EXIF (was Lesson 1: (homework done))
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3641 Poppy Casper writes:
3642 > In the middle of this, I realized something that bugs me - Gimp is
3643 > erasing the Exif data from my images when I save them. Apparently,
3644 > it's a known bug, and may actually be specific to Gimp in Windows.
3645 > Still...... I like being able to look back at my pictures and see what
3646 > shutter speed and aperture I used to get that effect.
3648 What version of gimp? Gimp got EXIF handling fairly recently,
3649 in the middle of the 2.0 series -- maybe around 2.0.4?
3650 You still can't edit EXIF from within gimp (that's being worked
3651 on!) but it does preserve what's there.
3653 Apparently there are some issues with the libexif on Windows,
3654 though, so even in newer gimps not all may be well there.
3656 If so, do you know about jhead? It's a great little commandline
3657 program for displaying and editing EXIF, and one of its options
3658 is "Copy all the exif from files in this directory to similarly
3659 named files in this other directory", which is great for restoring
3660 EXIF that got removed somehow. It also has options like "Make the
3661 image smaller by removing things like integral thumbnails".
3663 http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/
3664 (Also good for anyone curious about what EXIF is and what it's good for.)
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3721 On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:23:36 -0800, Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
3723 > What version of gimp? Gimp got EXIF handling fairly recently,
3724 > in the middle of the 2.0 series -- maybe around 2.0.4?
3725 > You still can't edit EXIF from within gimp (that's being worked
3726 > on!) but it does preserve what's there.
3728 It's 2.2.3, the newest stable.... I suspect that there might be
3729 something that it's not pulling quite right in libexif-9 *OR* possibly
3730 something in libexif-9 that's not liking Windows environments. I'm not
3731 enough of a programmer to grab source code for either one and review
3732 it to see where the problem is.
3735 > Apparently there are some issues with the libexif on Windows,
3736 > though, so even in newer gimps not all may be well there.
3738 > If so, do you know about jhead? It's a great little commandline
3739 > program for displaying and editing EXIF, and one of its options
3740 > is "Copy all the exif from files in this directory to similarly
3741 > named files in this other directory", which is great for restoring
3742 > EXIF that got removed somehow. It also has options like "Make the
3743 > image smaller by removing things like integral thumbnails".
3745 > http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/
3746 > (Also good for anyone curious about what EXIF is and what it's good for.)
3748 Hey, that's pretty cool. I don't always keep my originals unmodified
3749 (bad poppy, no cookie!) so it's only halfway to a solution for me, but
3750 halfway is better than nothing!
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3802 I'm slow, I know. But here is the homework.
3804 This image was originally taken on digital zoom, so is a little "fuzzy".
3807 [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/My-Pix/Valley_mountains_original_cropped_and_scaledl.jpg[/IMG]
3811 [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/My-Pix/f5b5b983.jpg[/IMG]
3813 Somehow I ended up with a funny name for this...:(
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3863 Hello Akkana and GIMP course followers,
3865 I do not own any digital camera, but I use a scanner and I have the same
3866 problem as I scan my drawings on high resolution - the picture ends up
3867 being 5000 x 7000 pixels, weighing more than 100 Mo !
3869 I have put my homework on my (not yet published) weblog. There are
3870 screenshots detailing Akk's lesson, but the text is in french (anyway it
3871 is more or less a translation of Akk's great course).
3872 Lesson 1 is at http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=11
3874 I just saw some small differences with the description of zoom and of
3878 > Zooming, and Current Image Size
3880 > In the GIMP image window, unless your image is very small, GIMP
3881 > is probably showing your image smaller than its full size. You
3882 > can tell by looking at the image window's titlebar, which shows
3883 > the current zoom percentage. If it says 100%, you're seeing your
3884 > image as other people would see it. If it says anything else,
3886 I don't have anything talking about zoom in the title bar, but I have
3887 the zoom dropdown at the bottom.
3889 > The Scale dialog has two sections: Pixel Dimensions, and Print Size.
3890 > Don't get confused by these! Pixel Dimensions are the size of the
3891 > image in pixels: for example, 640 wide by 480 high for a typical large
3892 > web image, or 1600 wide by 1200 high for a 2 megapixel camera image.
3893 > Pixel dimensions are almost always what you care about.
3894 I don't have the Print Size section, it is in another dialog in Image
3895 menu, called Print Size (you can see a screenshot of my Scale dialog on
3896 the given link, though it is in french).
3898 Both of these remarks are true for GIMP 2.2 I got through gentoo's
3899 packaging system, and for cvs GIMP 2.3. I wonder if I'm the only one
3900 seing those that way ?
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3969 > I don't have anything talking about zoom in the title bar, but I have
3970 > the zoom dropdown at the bottom.
3971 same here, gimp 2.2.2 on FC3
3973 > I don't have the Print Size section, it is in another dialog in Image
3974 > menu, called Print Size (you can see a screenshot of my Scale dialog on
3975 > the given link, though it is in french).
3981 http://womensfooty.com
3984 From david@aeolia.co.uk Tue Feb 1 11:15:09 2005
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4004 From: David Sumbler <david@aeolia.co.uk>
4005 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:15:00 +0000
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4029 (Rushes in, out of breath, holding apple for Akkana)
4031 Sorry I'm late for class! I really wanted to do this course, but I've
4032 not had a chance to get started until this evening. It's great.
4034 I've dabbled with the Gimp from time to time, but already I've learnt
4035 a lot of tricks from this course. I particularly like the '1' for
4036 100% zoom, and the "dynamic keyboard shortcuts" are just brilliant!
4037 I've changed my zoom-in to '=': I always thought that having to press
4040 I'm up to date now - even done my homework. It's at
4041 http://www.aeolia.co.uk/KY/KY_Concorde.jpg if anyone's interested.
4042 Typical overcast day at Manchester Airport. That's me in the pilot's
4043 seat (in the foreground, not the big thing in the background).
4045 Thanks so much Akkana - looking forward to the next lesson. (And
4046 thanks for not putting me in detention for being late.)
4055 From photopoppy@gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:20:34 2005
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4106 I'm curious, David, what kind of camera?
4108 If it's one that has a filter-option (i.e., install a filter on it),
4109 and you have access to one, I think your picture would look good with
4110 a polarization filter to block some of the glare off of the
4111 windshield. I've considered just holding up the lens to polarized
4112 sunglasses infront of mine (seeing as how sunglasses are way cheaper
4113 than camera filters), but I don't know if that would even work or not.
4117 On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:15:00 +0000, David Sumbler <david@aeolia.co.uk> wrote:
4118 > (Rushes in, out of breath, holding apple for Akkana)
4120 > Sorry I'm late for class! I really wanted to do this course, but I've
4121 > not had a chance to get started until this evening. It's great.
4123 > I've dabbled with the Gimp from time to time, but already I've learnt
4124 > a lot of tricks from this course. I particularly like the '1' for
4125 > 100% zoom, and the "dynamic keyboard shortcuts" are just brilliant!
4126 > I've changed my zoom-in to '=': I always thought that having to press
4129 > I'm up to date now - even done my homework. It's at
4130 > http://www.aeolia.co.uk/KY/KY_Concorde.jpg if anyone's interested.
4131 > Typical overcast day at Manchester Airport. That's me in the pilot's
4132 > seat (in the foreground, not the big thing in the background).
4134 > Thanks so much Akkana - looking forward to the next lesson. (And
4135 > thanks for not putting me in detention for being late.)
4143 > _______________________________________________
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4199 I've really enjoyed all the list pics and finally got a site to upload
4200 the ones that I've done. Thanks Akkana for the great course.
4204 http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/index.html
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4258 Procrastination will be the death of me, but here's my homework for
4261 http://www.deanne.ca/gimplessons/lesson1_orig.jpg is the original photo,
4262 which I resized in order to put it online
4264 http://www.deanne.ca/gimplessons/lesson1.jpg is the cropped photo, which
4265 didn't need resizing, because cropping it made it small enough for the web
4270 From kyriem2@comcast.net Tue Feb 15 00:01:50 2005
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4318 Heh, I wouldn't feel so bad about the procrastination. I've had my pics
4319 done for quite some time, just got around to posting them.
4321 Much like Dean's, I have an original photo and an un-resized image due
4322 to it came out so small when cropped.
4324 Original - http://home.comcast.net/~kyriem2/CAT0010.jpg
4326 Cropped - http://home.comcast.net/~kyriem2/Barbie_01.jpg
4330 P.S. - The little kitten's name is Barbie or sometimes affectionately
4331 called 'my little girlfriend.'
4335 > Procrastination will be the death of me, but here's my homework for
4338 > http://www.deanne.ca/gimplessons/lesson1_orig.jpg is the original
4339 > photo, which I resized in order to put it online
4341 > http://www.deanne.ca/gimplessons/lesson1.jpg is the cropped photo,
4342 > which didn't need resizing, because cropping it made it small enough
4347 > _______________________________________________
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4349 > Courses@linuxchix.org
4350 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
4354 From jon.drews@gmail.com Sun Jan 30 03:05:40 2005
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4403 I would like to enroll in the GIMP course. I have a little
4404 familiarity with it (cropping and resizing) but not enough to do
4405 anything significant. I would like to learn more.
4410 From mary@home.puzzling.org Sun Jan 30 09:43:24 2005
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4440 From: Mary <mary-linuxchix@puzzling.org>
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4451 X-Nihilism: Immortality is all I seek... Give us this day our daily week...
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4474 On Sat, Jan 29, 2005, Jon Drews wrote:
4477 > I would like to enroll in the GIMP course. I have a little
4478 > familiarity with it (cropping and resizing) but not enough to do
4479 > anything significant. I would like to learn more.
4481 There is no enrolment. Just make sure that you're subscribed to the
4482 "GIMP beginners" topic at
4483 http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/options/courses and start reading
4488 From kristi@erdves.lt Mon Jan 31 19:27:52 2005
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4537 ... just a link to add to your list of image galleries:
4539 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/channel/2/extra/new/startpic/32
4541 Please keep noted that free-to-use distribution images are only in the
4542 "gallerie" section, which you get directly if you follow the link.
4548 From kristi@erdves.lt Mon Jan 31 19:29:22 2005
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4566 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Images
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4598 Sorry for not including the keywords in the subject in my last msg!
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4607 ... just a link to add to your list of image galleries:
4609 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/channel/2/extra/new/startpic/32
4611 Please keep noted that free-to-use distribution images are only in the
4612 "gallerie" section, which you get directly if you follow the link.
4618 From patpeck@znet.com Tue Feb 1 14:38:30 2005
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4666 Okay, teach and classmates, here's my homework for this week.
4668 The photo labeled just "clouds" is the original, but scaled so as not to
4669 take up too much room; the one with all the extra letters (cryptography
4670 for cr(opped) and S(caled) is the homework.
4672 It's one of the very first shots I took with my new digital camera after
4673 Christmas - of clouds over the Verdugo Hills after a rain, shot from the
4674 roof of Ikea's parking lot in Burbank, CA. Much prettier than the usual
4677 The third photo, "leafy" is my favorite creature in the Long Beach
4678 aquarium, the leafy seadragon, also cropped and scaled.
4680 Looking forward to Lesson 2,
4686 From patpeck@znet.com Tue Feb 1 14:46:19 2005
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4740 > Did you forget to provide a URL? (The list will strip attachments I
4743 Sure did! So I just posted the whole thing again, maybe right this
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4798 Patricia Peck wrote:
4799 > Okay, teach and classmates, here's my homework for this week.
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4858 Oops, dummy! Forgot to put the link. So here's the whole message over
4861 Okay, teach and classmates, here's my homework for this week.
4863 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck
4865 The photo labeled just "clouds" is the original, but scaled so as not to
4866 take up too much room; the one with all the extra letters (cryptography
4867 for cr(opped) and S(caled) is the homework.
4869 It's one of the very first shots I took with my new digital camera after
4870 Christmas - of clouds over the Verdugo Hills after a rain, shot from the
4871 roof of Ikea's parking lot in Burbank, CA. Much prettier than the usual
4874 The third photo, "leafy" is my favorite creature in the Long Beach
4875 aquarium, the leafy seadragon, also cropped and scaled.
4877 Looking forward to Lesson 2,
4883 From shirrell@pstat.com Wed Feb 2 03:41:28 2005
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4931 I have moved 4 pictures to our web site;
4933 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/horse1.jpg is one of the horses statues
4934 from Rochester N.Y. which
4936 on display in 2001. I have many more that could be
4939 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/Cougarx.jpg Cougar is a mustang who belongs to
4940 our neightbors but lives in
4942 back field and barn. This is the picture that i resized
4945 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/cisco1.jpg Cisco is of Tennessee walker
4946 parentage. He also lives in our
4948 field. This shows both horses and Wolfgang our
4951 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/cisco1x.jpg This is cut down from 1800
4952 pixels to 640 pixels. to
4956 I will probably be working mostly with horse and dog pictures. So far
4964 From carlesreig@gmail.com Wed Feb 2 11:28:20 2005
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5090 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
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5092 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
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5116 In lesson 1, we learned how to take a photo and crop and resize it.
5117 But what if the image isn't quite right? What if it's too light,
5118 or too dark? What if it isn't quite sharp? Can we fix that?
5120 For this lesson, I'm going to use a photo I took of an Audubon's
5121 Warbler in my backyard (already cropped):
5123 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-orig.jpg
5125 It's not a very good picture. It was an overcast day, and the
5126 camera exposed for the bright sky and not for the bird. I didn't
5127 compensate for that, so it's too dark. In addition, it's not very
5128 sharp. But I didn't have a photo of one of these warblers before,
5129 so I wanted to try to save it.
5131 The first thing to do was to try to fix the exposure. If an image is
5132 too dark, or two light, there may not be enough information there to
5133 make a good photo. But there's more information there than you can
5134 see with your eyes, so it's always worth a try! You may get something.
5136 Simple photo editors generally give you sliders for "brightness" and
5137 "contrast". GIMP has those, but it also offers two other ways of
5138 changing these parameters. Let's compare them.
5140 A quick digression: all of these brightness/contrast tools will
5141 be in the Colors menu. In GIMP 2, you'll find Colors in the image
5142 window menu, under Layers->Colors. In GIMP 1.2, it's also in the
5143 image window menu (remember, right-click to see the menus) under
5144 Image->Colors. Since we'll be choosing several different options
5145 under the Colors menu, let's take advantage of a helpful feature
5146 in Gimp's menus: "tear-offs". Call up the Colors menu (the first
5147 item will be something like "Color Balance") and notice that at
5148 the top of that menu, there's a dotted line: --------
5149 Click on that dotted line, and the Colors menu becomes a separate
5150 window on your desktop, which you can move to any convenient place.
5151 Now you don't have to go through all those layers of menus for each of
5152 the following options.
5154 Now, from the Colors menu, call up Brightness-Contrast... to get
5155 the basic brightness/contrast sliders. Play with these sliders
5156 and get a feel for what they do. Maybe they're all you need.
5157 But when you're done experimenting, Cancel out of that (or Undo
5158 whatever you did) because we're going to try the other techniques too.
5160 The next brightness adjustment method is the Curves tool: Colors->Curves...
5161 This is my personal favorite. It shows you the same histogram as
5162 the Levels tool did, but instead of the two sets of sliders, your
5163 adjustment is a diagonal line. Grab the line anywhere with the mouse,
5164 and drag it up-right or down-left, and watch how the image changes.
5166 You can make fairly complicated adjustments with the Curves tool.
5167 For example, if the dark parts of your photo are too dark but the
5168 light parts are all right, after you've dragged the line out to
5169 one side or the other, click on it again somewhere else, and drag
5170 it in a different direction. You can make curves shaped like s, w,
5171 or anything you want, and the shape of your curve controls the
5172 brightness of different parts of your image. I won't try to describe
5173 the mathematical colorspace transformations going on here: just grab
5174 the line and pull it around and see what it does! Keep fiddling
5175 until your image looks better.
5177 The final method is the Levels tool: Colors->Levels...
5178 The Levels tool is the most complicated, but it's very powerful.
5180 The Levels dialog has two sets of controls: Input Levels, and Output
5181 Levels. Input Levels shows a histogram representing the current
5182 brightness of the image. If it's pretty even, then the histogram
5183 should be filled in fairly evenly. If it's way over- or
5184 under-exposed, then the histogram probably shows a spike over to
5185 the left or the right.
5187 Both Input and Output have sliders which you can play with to make
5188 the image brighter or darker, more or less contrasty. Don't neglect
5189 the middle slider (also called "gamma value", if you've heard that
5190 term before) under Input Levels -- you can fine-tune the contrast
5191 of the image with it. You can also use the "eyedropper" buttons under
5192 the Input Levels slider to pick points in your image which should be
5193 all black or all white: click on the eyedropper button, then click at
5194 the right place in the image.
5196 One final thing you may notice about the Levels dialog is the Auto
5197 button. This is theoretically comparable to the "Auto Levels" in
5198 some other photo editing programs; but in practice, I find that
5199 it almost never chooses the right values. (This may say more
5200 about which photos I try it on than it does about the Auto Levels
5201 button, however.) It's always worth a try; you have the Reset
5202 and Cancel buttons there if you don't like the effect.
5204 I find Levels much more complicated to use than Curves, but I
5205 know people who swear by Levels, because they find the histogram
5206 so useful. Try both, and use whichever you like best.
5208 You may have noticed that both the Levels tool and the Curves tool
5209 have a Channel menu at the top of the dialog. This defaults to Value
5210 (which you can think of as meaning total brightness), but you can also
5211 choose Red, Green, Blue, or Alpha (Alpha means transparency). You can
5212 use these tools to make fairly subtle shifts in the color of an image.
5213 That's way beyond the scope of this lesson (and I'm not very good at
5214 it anyway!) but if you have an image with an unwanted color cast,
5215 Levels and Curves are among the many color tools which might help.
5217 One final note on brightness correction: in the Colors menu under the
5218 Auto submenu (not related to Auto Levels) are several filters which
5219 are supposed to correct for brightness problems: in particular,
5220 Equalize and Normalize. I haven't generally found them to help my
5221 images, but give them a try -- maybe they'll work for you. If they
5222 don't, just Undo and try something else.
5224 Here's my warbler, brightened up by fiddling with the Curves tool
5225 (only one point on the curve):
5227 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-brighter.jpg
5231 Okay, you have your lighte image. But it's still fuzzy!
5233 GIMP has two ways of sharpening: they're both in the Filters->Enhance
5234 menu (you can use the tear-off to make this menu conveniently visible
5235 while you're doing this).
5237 The first is Sharpen... It has a preview area, and a slider where
5238 you can choose how much to sharpen the image. Too much sharpening
5239 makes an image speckly; too TOO much can "posterize" it almost beyond
5240 recognition. Go ahead, play with it and see.
5242 The second is Unsharp Mask. This is a confusing name: you don't
5243 want to make the image unsharp, you want to make it sharper! (The
5244 name comes from the way the algorithm is implemented: it makes a
5245 blurry copy of the image, then uses that in various transformations
5246 to make the original image sharper.) Some image editing programs
5247 call this "Sharpen More" or something like that, to avoid this
5248 confusion, but "Unsharp Mask" is really what this procedure is called.
5250 Unsharp Mask has three parameters: radius, amount, and threshold.
5251 Radius generally affects how local the sharpening will be; amount
5252 controls how strongly the effect will be applied; and threshold
5253 controls how different nearby pixels have to be before any sharpening
5256 Unsharp Mask very often gives better results than Sharpen. But
5257 unfortunately, since it has three parameters and no preview, it
5258 can take a while of experimenting and Undo to find just the right
5259 settings. It can be worth it, though, if you have a photo you really
5260 want to keep and there's no chance of taking another shot with better
5263 Here's my warbler, sharpened with 4.5, .25, and 0:
5264 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-sharper.jpg
5266 and with more than that, illustrating how graining over-sharpened
5268 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-toosharp.jpg
5270 There you go -- you have a brighter, darker, or sharper image!
5272 Homework: show an image you've modified in any of these ways.
5274 Next Lesson: Introduction to Layers, and the Text Tool.
5275 Let's make a Valentine's Day card!
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5324 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Duplicate images (Re: Lesson 2: Lightening,
5325 Darkening, Sharpening)
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5341 On Fri, Feb 04, 2005, Akkana Peck wrote:
5342 > Now, from the Colors menu, call up Brightness-Contrast... to get the
5343 > basic brightness/contrast sliders. Play with these sliders and get a
5344 > feel for what they do. Maybe they're all you need. But when you're
5345 > done experimenting, Cancel out of that (or Undo whatever you did)
5346 > because we're going to try the other techniques too.
5348 Another thing you can potentially do here is make a duplicate of the
5349 image. You could of course do this by just making a copy of the file,
5350 but GIMP can make a duplicate itself -- just the same image in a new
5351 window. In GIMP 2, you go to the menu, select images and the
5354 A second window will open up with the same image in it. Do keep an eye
5355 on the title bars at the top of the image: one will have the original
5356 file name in it, the other will have "Untitled-1.0" or something.
5358 Anyway, thought I'd point this out because when I'm using different
5359 techniques on an image, I like to open up a duplicate or two and try
5360 them out separately.
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5422 On Friday 04 Feb 2005 10:59 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
5423 > In lesson 1, we learned how to take a photo and crop and resize it.
5424 > But what if the image isn't quite right? What if it's too light,
5425 > or too dark? What if it isn't quite sharp? Can we fix that?
5427 > For this lesson, I'm going to use a photo I took of an Audubon's
5428 > Warbler in my backyard (already cropped):
5430 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-orig.jpg
5432 hey cool, i clicked this and gimp opened with the image - long live firefox!
5437 tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net
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5459 From: Carolyn Bucholtz <cabucholtz@yahoo.com.au>
5460 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
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5483 Thank you, Akkana, for running this course.
5485 > under the Colors menu, let's take advantage of a helpful feature
5486 > in Gimp's menus: "tear-offs". Call up the Colors menu (the first
5487 > item will be something like "Color Balance") and notice that at
5488 > the top of that menu, there's a dotted line: --------
5490 A couple of days ago I compiled gimp 2.2.3 using all the latest
5491 packages, gtk+, glib etc under mandrake 9.1 and I don't seem to have
5492 the tear-off feature, there is no dotted line in the Colors menu. Is
5493 this something that needs to be switched on? I couldn't see anything
5494 in the Preferences menu,
5499 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
5500 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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5528 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
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5555 I went out for a wander this afternoon, and came back with some great
5556 pics that just needed a little bit of sharpening (very little
5557 lightening/darkening, but I'm sure I've got some around to practice
5560 The original pic (scaled down)
5561 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Scaled.JPG
5564 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/RedWing.JPG
5566 *wanders off to do the awesome pictures dance*
5570 On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:17:56 +1100 (EST), Carolyn Bucholtz
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5572 > Thank you, Akkana, for running this course.
5574 > > under the Colors menu, let's take advantage of a helpful feature
5575 > > in Gimp's menus: "tear-offs". Call up the Colors menu (the first
5576 > > item will be something like "Color Balance") and notice that at
5577 > > the top of that menu, there's a dotted line: --------
5579 > A couple of days ago I compiled gimp 2.2.3 using all the latest
5580 > packages, gtk+, glib etc under mandrake 9.1 and I don't seem to have
5581 > the tear-off feature, there is no dotted line in the Colors menu. Is
5582 > this something that needs to be switched on? I couldn't see anything
5583 > in the Preferences menu,
5588 > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
5589 > http://au.movies.yahoo.com
5590 > _______________________________________________
5591 > Courses mailing list
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5593 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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5616 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
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5639 I've solved the problem ! I only get the tearoff menus if I go to
5640 the menus via the right mouse click in the image window - the menus
5641 at the top of the image window don't have the tearoff option,
5647 > > Thank you, Akkana, for running this course.
5649 > > > under the Colors menu, let's take advantage of a helpful
5651 > > > in Gimp's menus: "tear-offs". Call up the Colors menu (the
5653 > > > item will be something like "Color Balance") and notice that at
5654 > > > the top of that menu, there's a dotted line: --------
5656 > > A couple of days ago I compiled gimp 2.2.3 using all the latest
5657 > > packages, gtk+, glib etc under mandrake 9.1 and I don't seem to
5659 > > the tear-off feature, there is no dotted line in the Colors menu.
5661 > > this something that needs to be switched on? I couldn't see
5663 > > in the Preferences menu,
5669 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
5670 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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5718 Carolyn Bucholtz wrote:
5719 > I've solved the problem ! I only get the tearoff menus if I go to
5720 > the menus via the right mouse click in the image window - the menus
5721 > at the top of the image window don't have the tearoff option,
5723 Congratulations, I was unable to solve this alone ;) Because I never use
5724 the context menus...
5726 That lesson was very useful to me, as I had a drawing that was way too
5727 bright compared to the original (yeah, I'm just able to reproduce
5728 things...), and my sister will be happy to learn how to sharpen all
5729 those pics she's got.
5731 So, homework (and french translation) is done and you can see the
5732 results at http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=12
5736 From shirrell@pstat.com Mon Feb 7 03:08:06 2005
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5786 That is so much fun! Unfortunately I have gimp 1.2 and sharpen does
5787 not work. I will upgrade. My homework can be seen at:
5789 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/horse19_before.jpg and
5790 http://www.pstat.com/jpg/horse19_after.jpg
5795 From almut-behrens@gmx.net Mon Feb 7 03:50:43 2005
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5845 On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 11:02:57AM -0500, Shirrell wrote:
5846 > That is so much fun! Unfortunately I have gimp 1.2 and sharpen does
5847 > not work. I will upgrade.
5849 ...strange. For me it has always worked, even way back in gimp 0.99.
5850 Maybe you're inadvertently applying it to some wrong layer, selection,
5851 or so.. so the effect you get differs from what you expect?
5853 In such cases, I usually do a "unselect-all" (Ctrl-Shift-A) and
5854 "flatten-image", before I try again...
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5922 My lesson #2 results are at
5924 http://womensfooty.com/gimpclass/lesson2
5926 I'm not as happy with the lightening/darkening part. I haven't quite
5927 figured out how to lighten the parts I want (people's faces) without doin=
5929 the same to the sky and grass. I'll keep experimenting.
5931 One thing I did notice is that if you use one of the selection tools, the
5932 algorithms will then apply to just the selected area.
5934 Also with gimp 2.2.3 there is a preview option in the "Unsharp Mask" tool=
5939 http://womensfooty.com
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5962 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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5964 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
5965 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:06:57 -0500
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5993 On Friday 04 February 2005 12:29 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
5995 > image window menu (remember, right-click to see the menus) under
5996 > Image->Colors. Since we'll be choosing several different options
5997 > under the Colors menu, let's take advantage of a helpful feature
5998 > in Gimp's menus: "tear-offs".
6000 Wow! That's a nice feature.
6002 Here is my homework:
6003 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/sew.htm
6005 I went quite crazy in the color menu for quite a long time. ...at one point
6006 in the Curves menu I had the graph looking like a heart monitor gone bad
6007 and some pretty wacky color combinations. Then I settled down. ;-)
6009 I found Unsharp Mask to be a lot more effective than Sharpen, but a preview
6010 pane sure would be nice. Thanks Mary for pointing out the Duplicate
6011 feature. I'm using Gimp 1.2.5 and it's in the same place: Image >
6014 I'm not sure which of the three images I am calling "final" is best... none
6015 are very good :) but what I had to begin with was pretty bad! At least
6016 now you can tell it's a sewing machine. Sort of.
6018 I am not very good at this. :/
6026 > Here's my warbler, brightened up by fiddling with the Curves tool
6027 > (only one point on the curve):
6029 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson2/warbler-brighter.jpg
6035 From mary@home.puzzling.org Mon Feb 7 16:15:38 2005
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6095 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005, Julie Sloan wrote:
6096 > I am not very good at this. :/
6098 I think it's really a question of practice, on a bunch of images.
6100 I did a drawing class on the weekend and something that was mentioned is
6101 that our brains are GREAT at recognising faces and picking out things
6102 from them, and hence also great at finding things wrong with them.
6103 Unless you're an artist, you spend a lot more time looking at and
6104 processing faces than you do producing faces. Hence when you start
6105 drawing faces, your critical faculty is way ahead of your drawing
6108 In exactly the same way, you spend time every day seeing light and
6109 shadow and processing it. You have decades of experience in processing
6110 light patterns. Unless you do image manipulation though (or possibly
6111 have experience in realistic drawing and/or manual photography), you
6112 probably have very little experience in producing light patterns
6115 In both cases, your lifetime experience in seeing and processing makes
6116 you a very harsh critic of your production. So... just practice :) After
6117 a few photos you'll be better at saving photos that can be saved and
6118 recognising ones that just don't have the information in them.
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6174 On Monday 07 February 2005 12:14 am, Mary wrote:
6175 > On Mon, Feb 07, 2005, Julie Sloan wrote:
6176 > > I am not very good at this. :/
6178 > I think it's really a question of practice, on a bunch of images.
6180 > In both cases, your lifetime experience in seeing and processing makes
6181 > you a very harsh critic of your production. So... just practice :) After
6182 > a few photos you'll be better at saving photos that can be saved and
6183 > recognising ones that just don't have the information in them.
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6247 > I am not very good at this. :/
6249 Join the club! I think most of us, certainly I, will need lots of
6250 practice. One thing I'm learning from this course is that you can spend
6251 a LOT of time fiddling with an image and never think you've got it quite
6252 right. I was about to go back and completely re-do my homework to get
6253 it, if not perfect, at least better, but I decided to just go ahead and
6254 post it and watch myself improve as the weeks go on.
6256 The homework this week is a very skittish squirrel who finally stayed
6257 still long enough for a photo. I thought I had turned my flash off, but
6258 no-ooo, so the "base" photo had weird eyeballs, and I got a bit ahead of
6259 myself trying to get rid of them. I was thinking he'd look cuter if I
6260 made the eye bigger, like a cartoon squirrel, but then decided to wait
6261 for the appropriate lesson to work on that. Anyway, here's my homework.
6265 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson2base.jpg
6267 The doctored one is:
6269 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson2complete.jpg
6276 From kjersti.b.berg@start.no Wed Feb 9 01:29:50 2005
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6324 I've now uploaded my homework, here: http://home.no.net/tuttings/
6326 I read an article in a (norwegian) magazine about Gimp, and the author
6327 recommended using the Unsharp Mask tool on the L-layer only. (Luminance?
6328 You can decompose an image into different color layers, and choosing LAB
6329 gives you a Luminance layer). I tried this as well, but for the image I
6330 used I didn't see a huge difference. Anyone else tried this/has
6333 > I found Unsharp Mask to be a lot more effective than Sharpen, but a preview
6334 > pane sure would be nice. Thanks Mary for pointing out the Duplicate
6335 > feature. I'm using Gimp 1.2.5 and it's in the same place: Image >
6338 I'm using version 2.2.3 and it has a previewpane for the Unsharp Mask.
6340 > I'm not sure which of the three images I am calling "final" is best.
6343 I liked the second one best, although the colors were a bit distorted.
6344 The other ones look a bit pale, so the details were more clear in the
6347 Look forward to lesson 3!
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6372 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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6374 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
6375 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 06:59:08 -0500
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6404 On Tuesday 08 February 2005 09:31 am, Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg wrote:
6405 > Julie Sloan wrote:
6407 > > I found Unsharp Mask to be a lot more effective than Sharpen, but a
6408 > > preview pane sure would be nice. =20
6410 > I'm using version 2.2.3 and it has a previewpane for the Unsharp Mask.
6412 I'll look forward to getting v2.2.3 :)
6415 > > I'm not sure which of the three images I am calling "final" is best.
6417 > I liked the second one best, although the colors were a bit distorted.
6418 > The other ones look a bit pale, so the details were more clear in the
6421 That's the problem I often find when lightening: the image looks surrounde=
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6454 To: courses@linuxchix.org
6455 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 2: Lightening, Darkening, Sharpening
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6479 Here's homework number 2.
6481 Just lightening and sharpening.
6483 http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/
6488 From jon.drews@gmail.com Sun Feb 20 04:48:17 2005
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6540 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0800, Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
6541 > In lesson 1, we learned how to take a photo and crop and resize it.
6542 > But what if the image isn't quite right? What if it's too light,
6543 > or too dark? What if it isn't quite sharp? Can we fix that?
6546 http://www.silbsd.org/beastie/photo004reduced.jpg
6548 After Contrasting, brightening and sharpening.
6550 http://www.silbsd.org/beastie/Mountain.jpg
6552 I realize I am a little behind here but a few quick questions:
6554 1) I should always save in the native *.xcf before doing alterations?
6555 I did that with this image.
6557 2) These images were large so I worked on them in their original large
6558 size and then reduced them using the techniques from lesson 1. Is that
6559 the proper thing to do or should I reduce them first? Which sequence
6560 gives better image quality: alter first and then reduce or reduce and
6563 I must say this really quite a good course Akkana. Thanks!
6568 From akkana@shallowsky.com Fri Feb 11 05:09:44 2005
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6588 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
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6612 In this lesson, we'll begin working with layers, and in the process,
6613 we'll make a simple greeting card. With Valentine's Day coming up,
6614 I'll make a Valentine's card as my example. Of course you're free
6615 to make anything you want -- a friendship card, a poster for a
6616 project, or perhaps just a picture with a funny caption to put on
6617 the web or post on your wall.
6619 I'm posting this lesson a day early in case there's anyone who wants
6620 extra time to make a card before Monday.
6624 I know layers sound intimidating. I avoided using them for a long
6625 time myself. But once I finally took the plunge, I realized they were
6626 really a lot simpler than I'd thought -- I wished I'd taken the plunge
6629 To work with layers, you'll want to make sure the Layers dialog is
6630 showing. Once you learn how to work with layers, you'll probably
6631 want this dialog visible all the time. GIMP turns it on by default,
6632 but in case you closed it at some point, it's easy to get it back: use
6633 the Toolbox window, File->Dialogs->Layers. In gimp 1.2, it's called
6634 "Layers, Channels, and Paths" but it's still in File->Dialogs.
6636 We'll talk about channels and paths in later lessons; for now, you'll
6637 only need the leftmost tab in the dialog, "Layers".
6641 The first step is to choose the perfect image for your card. I found
6642 just the thing in a batch I took at the SF Zoo a few years ago:
6643 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson3/penguin-orig.jpg
6645 If you're going to be printing your image out, use as large an image
6646 as possible (a 2 megapixel camera image is plenty for a half-page
6647 card, a 1.3 megapixel image is probably fine if the recipient isn't
6648 super picky). If it's for the web, you're probably best off using the
6649 size you're going to use in the final web image, because text often
6650 doesn't look as good when it's resized. Open your image in gimp, and
6651 crop/resize as needed. Leave some space for text, though.
6652 (I'll post my examples resized for the web, though I'm actually
6653 working on a full-sized image since I'll be printing mine.)
6657 Before we actually create the text, we need to choose what color it
6658 will be. In the toolbox, right under the rows of tools, are two
6659 squares (one on top of the other) showing two colors: probably
6660 black in front, and white behind it. These are the current foreground
6661 and background colors.
6663 Change the foreground color by clicking on the foreground color (the
6664 black square). Gimp's color picker window will pop up.
6666 In-depth use of the color picker is a topic for later, but for now,
6667 either use the sliders next to R, G, and B (for Red, Green, and Blue)
6668 to choose a color; or drag up and down in the rainbow column to change
6669 the hue, then drag up and to the right in the big shaded box to make
6670 the color brighter; or (in gimp 2) click on one of the predefined
6671 colors. The color you pick will show up under Current, and also
6672 back in the toolbox window in place of the black square. I'm picking
6677 Select the Text tool: click on the T in the toolbox. Then click
6678 somewhere in the image. I click generally near where I want the text
6679 to end up, but it's not critical; we'll position the text later.
6681 The text dialog pops up. This is very different depending on version.
6683 Gimp 2: the dialog itself just has a textarea where you can type in
6684 your text. Type your desired text here (multiple lines are okay).
6685 All the other options are back in the tool options dialog:
6686 this might be visible as a separate dialog, or it might be "docked"
6687 in the toolbox window underneath the fg/bg color swatches. If all
6688 else fails and you can't find the text options, try, in the Toolbox,
6689 File->Dialogs->Tool Options and see if it pops up.
6690 Once you've found the Text Options, you can use the menus there to
6691 change font face and size, and other details like color and spacing.
6692 Happily, gimp shows a live preview in the image window, so you can
6693 fiddle with things and see what happens.
6695 Gimp 1: The dialog is much bigger and has the font and size pickers
6696 right there, as well as the preview. But there's a confusing gotcha:
6697 the preview in the dialog shows the font as it will look when the
6698 image is at 100%. If the image is zoomed smaller, then once you
6699 click OK in the dialog, the font will show up that much smaller.
6700 You may find that you have to try it, then Undo, then try it again
6701 with a different size, several times before you get it the size you
6704 In both gimp 2 (during the preview phase) and gimp 1 (after you click
6705 ok), the text is surrounded by dotted lines and it's hard to tell
6706 exactly what it looks like. Right now, just get it the right size,
6707 and click OK or Close.
6709 My image with some text added:
6710 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson3/penguin-text.jpg
6714 Look at the Layers dialog. Notice that while there was only one entry
6715 there before, now there are two: one for the base image, and one for
6716 the text. You're working with layers now!
6718 In gimp 1.2, the text layer will be labelled as "Floating Selection".
6719 (Gimp 2 users can skip this paragraph.) That means i's a sort of a
6720 fake temporary layer. We'll be working with real layers here, so you
6721 need to convert it. To do that, go to the button at the bottom left
6722 of the Layers dialog, with a "new document" icon (like a piece of
6723 paper with one corner folded over) -- if you hover over it, the
6724 tooltip says "New Layer". Click this, and the layer's name should
6725 change to "Text Layer".
6727 Why a layer? Gimp could have just painted your text right on the
6728 image. But because it's in a layer of its own, you can move the text
6729 around, change it, or delete it, without risking any damage to the
6730 original photo below.
6732 The first thing we're going to do with the text layer is move it.
6733 Go back to the toolbox, and find the Move tool. It's a pair of
6734 crossed arrows, one vertical, one horizontal; it's probably right
6735 above the T of the text tool, and its tooltip says "Move Layers &
6736 Selections". Click it.
6738 Now move your mouse back into the image, move the mouse slowly toward
6739 the text, and watch the cursor carefully. In most of the image, the
6740 cursor should look like a pointing hand, but as you move over the new
6741 text, the cursor should change to the crossed arrows of the Move tool.
6742 It's good to get in the habit of watching the mouse cursor as you move
6743 in the image: a lot of gimp's tools will change the cursor like this
6744 to give you clues about what you can do.
6746 Once you're over the image, and seeing a Move cursor, hold the left
6747 button down and drag the text layer to exactly where you want it
6748 in the image. The beauty of layers is that if you change your mind,
6749 you will be able to move the layer again at any time.
6751 Tip: When you want to move a specific layer, first make sure that
6752 layer is selected in the Layers dialog. That way, you can watch the
6753 mouse cursor to make sure you're moving the right layer. You *can*
6754 click on another layer, and gimp will switch to that layer and start
6755 moving it instead, but when you have several layers built up, that
6756 can get confusing. If you do move the wrong layer, though, "Undo"
6757 works to undo a layer move.
6759 At this point you have a fairly nice card! You can add more text,
6760 in different colors or fonts. Adding the person's name is a nice
6761 touch, so they know you made it for them personally.
6762 Make a separate layer for each new piece of text. If you want
6763 to go back and move one of the earlier layers, you can click on
6764 that layer in the Layers dialog to make it the active layer.
6768 If you want GIMP to remember details such as layers, you have to use
6769 GIMP's native format: XCF. So, the first time you save,
6770 use an image name that ends in .xcf. Now you can read the image back
6771 in at any time and not lose any details.
6773 XCF is big. You don't want to put an XCF on the web, unless you're
6774 collaborating with another gimp user. Web browsers can't view it anyway.
6775 But it's the only format to use when you're working on an image
6778 When you have your image finished, if you want to put it on the web
6779 or mail it to someone, you'll want to make a copy in some more common
6780 format, such as .jpg. In gimp 2, you can "Save a Copy" (in the file
6781 menu) to filename.jpg. But gimp 1 doesn't have "Save a Copy", so
6782 you have to use "Save as" to filename.jpg, which changes the image's
6783 current name, so if you make more changes and want to save to xcf
6784 again after that, you have to use "Save As" again.
6786 Finally: when you save to another format, like jpg, gimp will warn
6787 you that jpg can't handle layers, can't handle transparency, etc.
6788 Just click Export and let gimp handle the conversion.
6792 Notice, in the Layers dialog, how each layer has an eyeball icon to
6793 the left of it? This controls visibility of the layer. Click on the
6794 eye, and the layer becomes invisible. Click again where the eye used
6795 to be, and it becomes visible again.
6797 When you save to a format other than XCF, gimp will save the image
6798 as it looks to you. So if you have a layer that's invisible, that
6799 layer won't show up when you save a jpg or png.
6801 You can use this to make a card with several alternate sets of text.
6802 For example, you could make one text layer that says "To Fred", and
6803 another text layer that says "To Joe", and use the eyeballs to turn on
6804 only one at a time, and save to fred.jpg and joe.jpg. Just hope Fred
6805 and Joe never get together to show each other the cool Valentine's
6806 cards they got from you! :-)
6810 One final note. In my penguin card,
6811 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson3/penguin-text.jpg
6812 the area around the text is very busy, which makes it hard to read
6813 the text. An easy trick to make the text look prettier, and make
6814 it easier to read against a mixed background, is to use a "drop
6817 In a later lesson we'll see how drop shadows are made, but
6818 you don't need to know that now. In the Image window,
6819 Script-Fu->Shadow->Drop Shadow will make a dandy one for you
6820 as long as you have the text layer selected. Notice that
6821 when you make the drop shadow, it shows up as a separate layer.
6822 So you can toggle it on and off with the eyeball icon, and compare
6823 the effects. You can even make several different drop shadows,
6824 changing the parameters in the Drop Shadow dialog, and toggle
6825 them on and off to see which one you like best. You can also
6826 move the drop shadow layer separately from the text layer, to
6827 move the shadow closer to or farther from the text.
6829 Here's my card with a drop shadow added:
6830 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson3/penguin-val.jpg
6831 and the XCF of it is
6832 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson3/penguin-val.xcf
6834 HOMEWORK: Show off your card, cartoon, or whatever you made.
6836 Next lesson: I'll post an optional mini-lesson on printing in a day
6837 or two, for anyone who wants to print a physical card, including
6838 suggestions for people who don't have a color printer.
6840 From patpeck@znet.com Fri Feb 11 11:39:19 2005
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6890 This is some fun lesson! I've been playing with it, and eventually I
6891 may get something I like enough to post. So far, false starts and
6892 painting myself into a corner. Is there a way of selecting a piece of
6893 text and deleting just that text, like for example if you had an extra word?
6895 And say, what was the floozy font you used for your card. The fonts
6896 I've tried aren't so great, and it's hard to tell in that little
6897 dialogue box with just Aa as an example.
6899 Also, if I wanted something on the card to do this
6905 In order to move each of them to just the right place, would I have to
6906 keep each "and this" as a separate layer?
6913 From patpeck@znet.com Fri Feb 11 12:51:20 2005
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6963 Question: What is "Export"? I tried to save "Valentine.jpg", which
6964 may not be the final version, and it told me I had to "export" before it
6965 could be saved as a jpeg. So I clicked "export", and it apparently
6966 saved, but I don't understand what I did or why some images need this
6967 and some don't. Is it because it had two layers?
6973 From mary@home.puzzling.org Fri Feb 11 12:54:55 2005
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7036 On Thu, Feb 10, 2005, Patricia Peck wrote:
7037 > Question: What is "Export"? I tried to save "Valentine.jpg", which
7038 > may not be the final version, and it told me I had to "export" before it
7039 > could be saved as a jpeg. So I clicked "export", and it apparently
7040 > saved, but I don't understand what I did or why some images need this
7041 > and some don't. Is it because it had two layers?
7043 Yes, essentially. "Export" means "convert to the type of image that can
7044 be savid in the format you want". JPEGs cannot have multiple layers, so
7045 before you can save as a JPEG GIMP will 'flatten' all the layers
7048 If you open up the image you saved, you'll find that the layers are
7049 gone. (If you ever want to save in a format which preserves absolutely
7050 everything, save to the GIMP's own XCF format. Note that the files will
7051 be enormous though, so you'll definitely want to export before putting
7056 From carol@gimp.org Fri Feb 11 14:10:07 2005
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7103 On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:54:29PM +1100, Mary wrote:
7104 > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005, Patricia Peck wrote:
7105 > > Question: What is "Export"? I tried to save "Valentine.jpg", which
7106 > > may not be the final version, and it told me I had to "export" before it
7107 > > could be saved as a jpeg. So I clicked "export", and it apparently
7108 > > saved, but I don't understand what I did or why some images need this
7109 > > and some don't. Is it because it had two layers?
7111 > Yes, essentially. "Export" means "convert to the type of image that can
7112 > be savid in the format you want". JPEGs cannot have multiple layers, so
7113 > before you can save as a JPEG GIMP will 'flatten' all the layers
7116 > If you open up the image you saved, you'll find that the layers are
7117 > gone. (If you ever want to save in a format which preserves absolutely
7118 > everything, save to the GIMP's own XCF format. Note that the files will
7119 > be enormous though, so you'll definitely want to export before putting
7122 one nice thing about learning how to work with graphics with gimp-1.0
7123 is that the export dialog was not very reliable. it's broken-ness is
7124 really the reason i learned the differences between the file formats and
7125 what each of the different formats wanted (or could handle).
7127 jpegs are actually very simple to handle and more than likely the export
7128 dialog will handle it very well. gimp-1.0 users will probably still be
7129 Image -->Flatten'ing before saving as jpeg. the jpeg format wants no
7130 sign of layers or transparency.
7132 using the export dialog to make png's however might cause some trouble.
7133 since the file format can handle transparency it will, whether it is
7134 there or not, making a file larger than is necessary. there is really
7135 no way for the export dialog to be able to tell if you need that extra
7136 color or not as well, so i dont ever see it being reliable for making
7137 these files efficiently.
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7162 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
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7188 Patricia Peck writes:
7189 > Is there a way of selecting a piece of
7190 > text and deleting just that text, like for example if you had an extra word?
7192 In gimp 1, there isn't; text just becomes pixels like any other
7193 graphics, unless you're using the "Dynamic Text" option (I never
7194 used dynatext much, so I can't say much about how that works).
7196 In gimp 2, if you right-click on the layer in the layers dialog,
7197 the first item, "Text Tool...", will bring up the little text
7198 dialog, where you can change the text.
7200 (I'm glad you asked that; I didn't know how to do that either,
7201 though I was pretty sure it was possible. Now I know!)
7203 > And say, what was the floozy font you used for your card. The fonts
7204 > I've tried aren't so great, and it's hard to tell in that little
7205 > dialogue box with just Aa as an example.
7207 I was afraid someone was going to ask that. :-)
7209 One danger I forgot to warn you all about is that once you start
7210 making little cards like this, you run an extreme risk for becoming
7211 a font addict. Most systems come with only basic boring fonts
7212 installed, and of course for cartoons and cards you want the
7213 perfect bloopy or curvy font that looks good scaled way up.
7214 But once you start searching the web for free fonts, you find
7215 so many you want to try that you end up spending hours going
7216 crosseyed going through hundreds of fonts.
7218 Fonts most often come packaged as a .zip file, since they're
7219 intended for Windows users, but most Linux systems handle zip
7220 files just fine. Stick it in a directory somewhere (I'd recommend
7221 making a new directory just for unpacking fonts, since zip files
7222 usually have various readmes and things associated with them)
7223 and run unzip fontname.zip. This will probably give you
7224 fontname.ttf. Installing a ttf font on linux so that X sees it
7225 can be fairly difficult and is very distro-specific; but happily,
7226 you want the font primarily for gimp, all you have to do is
7228 and stick the fontname.ttf files in there.
7230 The particular font I used in this card is called "Running Shoe".
7231 I think I got it here: http://www.acidfonts.com/
7233 > Also, if I wanted something on the card to do this
7238 > In order to move each of them to just the right place, would I have to
7239 > keep each "and this" as a separate layer?
7241 The text tool (in gimp 2, anyway) will let you enter multiple lines,
7242 so you could try hitting return and a lot of spaces. But if they
7243 don't line up exactly the way you want, you might have to make
7244 three layers to get the alignment exactly the way you want it.
7246 You can combine layers together, or move them together while keeping
7247 them separate; I'll be talking about layer operations like that
7248 in a future lesson (probably not too far in the future).
7252 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Sat Feb 12 09:15:39 2005
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7308 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Thinking.jpg
7311 Cool, a cat theme. :)
7314 I added text and two dropshadows
7316 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/r-twist1.jpg
7318 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/r-twist1.xcf
7320 the jpg is 32k; the xcf is half a Meg!
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7374 Okay, gang. Here's my homework for Valentine's Day. With apologies to
7375 Remy Charlip's children's book, "Arm in Arm", from which I stole the
7376 idea (just happened to have an octopus hanging around the house).
7378 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Valentine.jpg
7385 From photopoppy@gmail.com Sat Feb 12 01:31:32 2005
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7437 I'm still looking for a picture that would make a decent card.... have
7438 some ideas, but I don't dare share them since my sweetie is listening
7442 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Thinking.jpg
7444 And the original picture (Unscaled, it's about 300Kb)
7445 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/PICT0146.JPG
7447 I could spend the rest of the week adding thought bubbles 'n stuff to
7448 my pictures. Pity I have to work instead :)
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7510 On Thursday 10 Feb 2005 11:39 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
7511 > In this lesson, we'll begin working with layers
7513 i always thought that the gimp was for masochists - basically because some
7514 time back i went through a tutorial on creating drop shadows which i could
7515 never master. but you have made it look so easy ... really looking forward to
7516 the remaining lessons.
7522 http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon
7523 tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net
7525 From kproot@nerim.net Mon Feb 14 03:12:36 2005
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7544 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:26:39 +0100
7545 From: Karine Proot <kproot@nerim.net>
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7572 Here is my homework, at the bottom of the french-translated article :
7573 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=14
7575 This one took me a lot of time because I wanted a penguin, I had a lot
7576 of stolen pictures from professional websites, and it took me hours to
7577 browse the fantastic ressources without copyright restrictions for
7578 non-profit use. Now I'm happy I won't use the stolen pictures :)
7580 Also, I first chose a font that was not truetype, and that I couldn't
7581 get big enough for my picture. So I resized it, but it looked awful and
7582 I could see big squared pixels. Then I realized that some font would
7583 scale without any problem and some will not... the first ones are
7584 truetype! (now I may have oversized that text during my dance of joy...)
7588 From kproot@nerim.net Mon Feb 14 18:08:58 2005
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7606 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:23:10 +0100
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7611 To: courses@linuxchix.org
7612 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
7613 References: <20050210180939.GA7026@shallowsky.com> <420F7FBF.1060801@nerim.net>
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7634 Hello chix and Gimp-course-followers,
7636 It seems I had not mentioned the original courses and their author
7637 anywhere in my translated courses where I post my homework, but in the
7638 lesson 0 (where there was only a link to the course and not even
7641 Please consider that my website was not yet advertised, so only people
7642 from Linuxchix came and saw the lessons, so no damage had yet be done.
7643 But it would have been advertised in a near future and damage would have
7646 Anyway, thanks to those you saw this and told me about it, I hate being
7649 Akkana, please accept my apologies.
7653 From akkana@shallowsky.com Tue Feb 15 06:24:48 2005
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7671 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
7672 To: courses@linuxchix.org
7673 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
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7700 I just want to say, thanks, Karine! I do appreciate your adding a
7701 link back to the original courses, or my name. And your French
7702 translations of the course look really great -- I don't read French
7703 (much, anyway) but all the screenshots add a lot.
7705 And an oversight doesn't make you a jerk. :-)
7709 Karine Proot writes:
7710 > Hello chix and Gimp-course-followers,
7712 > It seems I had not mentioned the original courses and their author
7713 > anywhere in my translated courses where I post my homework, but in the
7714 > lesson 0 (where there was only a link to the course and not even
7717 > Please consider that my website was not yet advertised, so only people
7718 > from Linuxchix came and saw the lessons, so no damage had yet be done.
7719 > But it would have been advertised in a near future and damage would have
7722 > Anyway, thanks to those you saw this and told me about it, I hate being
7725 > Akkana, please accept my apologies.
7728 > _______________________________________________
7729 > Courses mailing list
7730 > Courses@linuxchix.org
7731 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
7733 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sat Feb 12 14:33:27 2005
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7750 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:33:14 -0800
7751 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
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7753 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Optional Lesson 3.5: printing images
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7777 Lesson 3.5: A Mini Lesson on Printing
7779 (This lesson is optional and has no homework. Nothing in it will be
7780 needed for understanding later lessons; it's "extra credit" for
7781 anyone who wants to print the project they made in lesson 3.)
7783 Suppose you made a greeting card for Lesson 3, and now you want to
7784 print it. What are your options?
7786 First, if you don't have a good quality color printer, then don't
7787 dispair. It's quite easy to get prints made from digital art.
7789 The printing kiosks in drugstores and camera stores make very good
7790 prints. They don't accept XCF format, so save a full-sized copy
7791 of your image as a jpg or png. Put it on some transportable medium:
7792 a floppy, a CD, or a flash memory camera card (most of the printing
7793 kiosks can take all of the popular flash memory formats) and take
7794 it to the store where the kiosk is. Good copy stores (like Kinko's)
7795 also have color copiers and printers which can do a good job with
7796 digital art, and that's often the best option if you want to make
7797 a lot of copies (for example, if you make holiday cards to send
7798 to all your friends).
7800 But suppose you have your own color printer? That's where gimp-print
7805 Gimp-print is a separate plug-in from gimp, but it's probably already
7806 installed along with your gimp installation. Call it up from the
7807 Image window menu: File->Print. (You may have to click "Export"
7808 if the image has layers, transparency or other gimpish features.)
7810 A dialog comes up with a gazillion options.
7812 The first thing you need to do, if you've never used gimp-print
7813 before, is set up your printer. Gimp-print doesn't read the printer
7814 model from CUPS, so although it knows your default printer, it doesn't
7815 know what its capabilities are. Click on Setup printer... and choose
7816 your printer model from the list. (If your printer isn't listed,
7817 things get a lot more complicated; for now, skip ahead to the
7818 "printing from other programs" section.)
7820 Once your printer is selected, you should have options like Media Size
7821 (where you set the paper size), Media Type (where you can set it to
7822 print to Plain Paper, Glossy Photo Paper, Photo Quality Inkjet Paper
7823 or whatever; this controls how much ink the printer shoots at the
7824 paper), and, most important, Resolution (where you set the quality
7827 Everything below that is for position and size of the image as it's
7828 printed on the paper, and there's a preview on the left of how the
7829 image will be oriented on the page. If you're printing a card, then
7830 you probably want your image printed on the bottom half of the paper,
7831 so you can fold it in half and have the image on the front side.
7832 Choose Orientation as Portrait, Landscape, etc. until the image is
7833 oriented the way you want it.
7835 Next, size it by dragging the Scaling slider. For a card, you
7836 probably want it a bit less than 100%, maybe 90%, to leave room
7837 for borders and still be able to fold the page in half. For the
7838 card I made in lesson 3, I scaled to 80%, but if I'd cropped the
7839 image so it was wider and less tall, the number would have been
7842 Once you've sized the image, go to the preview image and drag the
7843 image down to the bottom of the "page". Position it approximately
7846 If you want it centered in one direction or the other, use the
7847 Center buttons to center Vertically or Horizontally. For a card,
7848 you probably want only one or the other; for a full-sized print,
7851 Once you have your image positioned, you're ready to print a test
7852 sheet. I recommend printing first on Plain Paper and choosing the
7853 lowest quality setting available (for my printer, that's "Resolution:
7854 360x180 DPI draft"). This will be fast and cheap (it doesn't waste
7855 a lot of expensive ink), and lets you know that gimp-print is working
7856 and that your position on the page is correct. Use the button marked
7857 "Print and Save Settings": this will remember your scaling and
7858 position, so if your test print is right, you can make another
7859 print using high resolution and better paper. If the test print
7860 isn't quite right, then you can adjust starting from your previous
7863 Sometimes you may find that an image which looked fine on the screen
7864 looks too dark, too light, or has a color cast when printed. The
7865 "Image / Output Settings" in the gimp-print dialog has an
7866 "Adjust output..." button which lets you correct such problems.
7867 When you "Save Settings" from gimp-print, it will remember these
7868 settings, so if your printer is always lighter than your screen,
7869 gimp-print can automatically make that correction for you.
7871 PRINTING FROM OTHER PROGRAMS
7873 Suppose gimp-print doesn't know about your printer, or otherwise
7874 doesn't work right, but your printer works from other programs?
7876 In that case, I'd recommend either a word processor like Open Office,
7877 or a web browser like Mozilla. Any word processor or browser can
7878 import a .jpg that you make in gimp. With a little fiddling you
7879 can probably even get them to print the image on the right half
7880 of the page, though the quality of a printed photograph probably
7881 won't be as good as it would be with gimp-print.
7883 There are also a couple of lightweight printing apps: a Newsforge
7884 story a few days ago mentioned a gnome printer, and a comment
7885 after the story mentions a kde equivalent.
7886 http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/02/03/0620241.shtml?tid=127&tid=130
7887 The down side is that these programs generally don't let you adjust
7888 settings like resolution or paper type, so if you're trying to make a
7889 beautiful photo-quality card on photo paper, you may not be satisfied.
7891 Next Lesson: Basic selection tools, and combining images with copy and paste.
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7938 On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 07:33:14PM -0800, Akkana Peck wrote:
7940 > The printing kiosks in drugstores and camera stores make very good
7941 > prints. They don't accept XCF format, so save a full-sized copy
7942 > of your image as a jpg or png. Put it on some transportable medium:
7943 > a floppy, a CD, or a flash memory camera card (most of the printing
7944 > kiosks can take all of the popular flash memory formats) and take
7945 > it to the store where the kiosk is. Good copy stores (like Kinko's)
7946 > also have color copiers and printers which can do a good job with
7947 > digital art, and that's often the best option if you want to make
7948 > a lot of copies (for example, if you make holiday cards to send
7949 > to all your friends).
7951 i have been to at least one kiosk that does not recognize png. also,
7952 these automatic photoprinting machines will expand your image to fit the
7953 usual negative or digital print size and then chop off one half an inch
7954 from this. they are very good about refusing to make a print if the
7955 original is too small.
7957 here is an example using the images i get off from my camera:
7958 1600 pixels x 1200 pixels. the print becomes 1600 x 1067 pixels of the
7959 original. if you make it that size to begin with, the machine will
7960 enlarge it and chop it. the people that are running these machines
7961 often do not know very much about it.
7963 another issue i have had with the kiosk is that they do automatic color
7964 correction. this is terrible if you are not printing photographs and
7965 terrible if you were happy with your adjustments. avoid this by using
7966 the kiosks that load to a machine where humans handle it and tell them
7967 to turn the automatic color adjustment off. i was successful here in
7968 california communicating this at the photo counter. at least the prints
7969 are relatively inexpensive, so allow yourself some extras and the chance
7970 to get it right. dont yell at the people at the counter -- it is not
7971 their fault they dont know about the equipment.
7973 and about kinkos. it has been a few years, however, they have a print
7974 machine called "Firey" that makes really lovely prints. i had problems
7975 occasionally getting the clerk to acknowledge its existance as well.
7976 they were in every kinkos i frequented in Michigan. and if you work
7977 with the clerk, you can find some glossy paper that might make your
7978 print all the more better. i was disappointed with the prints from
7979 their usual color computer printing after having seen what firey could
7980 do and they were more expensive.
7982 i suggest that if you take the challenge to get a good print for your
7983 valentine that you also tell your valentine that art is worth waiting
7984 for (if your first prints are disappointing).
7986 enjoy this, it is very educational. after a while, you will know more
7987 than the people working the counters and you will also know this.
7989 happy valentines day,
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8039 On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:22:11PM -0800, Carol Spears wrote:
8041 > another issue i have had with the kiosk is that they do automatic color
8042 > correction. this is terrible if you are not printing photographs and
8043 > terrible if you were happy with your adjustments. avoid this by using
8044 > the kiosks that load to a machine where humans handle it and tell them
8045 > to turn the automatic color adjustment off. i was successful here in
8046 > california communicating this at the photo counter. at least the prints
8047 > are relatively inexpensive, so allow yourself some extras and the chance
8048 > to get it right. dont yell at the people at the counter -- it is not
8049 > their fault they dont know about the equipment.
8051 this should read "i have been successful here in california
8052 communicating this at the costco counter"
8054 sorry. and it is not an advertisement either, it is one experience that
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8104 In this lesson we'll explore some of GIMP's basic selection tools,
8105 and some tricks for combining several images. I'll conclude by
8106 showing how to paste Tux, the Linux penguin, into photos.
8108 I'll start with a photo of the Mitten Fault on the Green River
8109 in Utah's Dinosaur National Monument:
8110 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault.jpg
8111 (that's a scaled-down version for the web.)
8113 It's a cool place. But one thing you can't easily see in the
8114 scaled-down version: down by the sandbar in the lower right quarter
8115 of the picture are two kayakers coming down the river. I'd like
8116 to show a magnified version of those kayakers on the same image
8117 that shows the whole scene.
8119 I start by loading the full-sized image into gimp. But I'll need
8120 to work with both the full sized version and a scaled-down copy,
8121 so the first step is Image->Duplicate to make a second copy.
8122 (Of course, I could also use cp in the shell, then open that
8123 file in gimp.) Then I scale the copy much smaller, 550 pixels wide.
8125 The next step is to go back to the original image and select the
8126 kayakers. I'll use the simplest selection tool for this: the
8127 rectangular selection tool, the very first tool in the gimp toolbox.
8128 (It's probably already selected by default when you start gimp.)
8130 Go to the large image, and select as though you were using the
8131 Crop tool: start at the upper left of the area you want, mouse down,
8132 and drag down to the lower right. Gimp will draw lines to show you
8133 the box while you're dragging out the selection, and when you release
8134 the mouse button, the selection is shown by a black-and-white dashed
8135 line where the blacks and whites continuously change. In gimp
8136 parlance, this line is called the "marching ants".
8138 Gimp's selection tools aren't as smart as crop, so you can't change
8139 a selection's size easily once you've made it. (You can move it;
8140 I'll talk about that later.) So if the selection you made isn't quite
8141 right, click somewhere outside the marching-ants box (this will cancel
8142 the selection) then try again, until you get the selection where you
8143 want it. (Be careful about clicking inside the selection: if you
8144 click inside a selection then drag, gimp moves the contents of the
8145 selection and leaves a white rectangle behind, which is almost never
8146 what you want. If this happens accidentally, Undo will fix it.)
8148 When you have a selection, lots of things act a little differently in
8149 gimp. Most filters (for instance, the brightness tools discussed in
8150 lesson 2) will only act on the selection, not the rest of the image;
8151 and most drawing tools won't draw outside the selection. We'll use
8152 that for some useful effects later.
8154 For now, though, what I want to do is copy the selection from the
8155 big image, then paste it into the small image. So I copy it:
8156 Edit->Copy, or just ctrl-C.
8158 Now I can go to the small image, and paste it: Edit->Paste, or ctrl-V.
8160 What happened? It pasted the selection as a new layer in the smaller
8161 image, which you can see in the Layers dialog: it probably says New
8162 Image, or Pasted Image. But it's a Floating layer, which may not be
8163 obvious from the name. Gimp 1.2 will call it a Floating layer, but
8164 gimp 2 just shows marching ants to show that it's different from a
8165 normal layer (so it looks just like a selection). Click the New Layer
8166 button in the Layers dialog now to make it a normal layer.
8168 The rectangle didn't paste at the place where I wanted it.
8169 So the next step is to move it. I can do that by selecting the move
8170 tool: the same crossed arrow icon in the toolbox that we used to move
8171 the text layer around in lesson 3. Using the move tool, I'll drag my
8172 box down to the green area in the lower right of the image.
8174 What if I want to see what the image looks like without that
8175 dotted-line layer boundary? Selecting the other layer (probably
8176 called "Background") in the layers dialog will draw the outline
8177 around that layer (the whole image) instead of the smaller layer.
8179 Now I have my little box showing kayakers pasted on top of my
8180 scaled-down image. But it looks weird -- it's hard to tell that
8181 that rectangle is something I put there intentionally. So how
8182 can I fix that? Easy: add a drop shadow!
8183 (Script-fu->Shadow->Drop-Shadow... just like in lesson 3.)
8184 I could even use a different color for my drop shadow to make it stand
8185 out more, though in this case I couldn't find one that didn't look
8186 garish. If I save the image now as jpg (of course I have to let gimp
8187 export it since I now have multiple layers), it looks like this:
8188 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-insert.jpg
8190 But rectangular isn't the only type of selection gimp has. Right next
8191 to the rectangular selection tool is ellipse select. It works the
8192 same way as rectangular select, only it lets you make ovals and
8193 circles instead of rectangles and squares.
8195 If I follow exactly the same procedure as before, but I use ellipse
8196 select instead of rectangular, and play with the drop shadow color,
8197 I get the rather strange looking:
8198 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-ellipse.jpg
8200 To close the lesson, I'll talk about one more selection tool:
8201 well, actually two closely related ones, Select Contiguous Regions
8202 and Select By Color. And who better to introduce these useful tools
8203 than everybody's favorite penguin?
8204 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/tux-large.gif
8206 (Incidentally, Tux was created by Larry Ewing, drawn freehand in
8207 gimp version 0.54. It's legal to use him or make changes as
8208 long as you credit Larry Ewing and the GIMP if anyone asks.
8209 The artist has a page describing how he was drawn:
8210 http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/notes.html )
8212 Now, Tux is cute all by himself, but what if I want to take him
8213 along on my trip to see the Mitten fault?
8215 First I decide how big he'll need to be. 100 pixels high looks about
8216 right; so I scale Tux to that size.
8218 Next, I need to select Tux (but not the background around him),
8219 so I can paste him into the photo.
8221 To do that, I need to select Tux himself, and not that white
8222 background behind him. (Or I could go download a tux image that
8223 already has a transparent background from Larry Ewing's page --
8224 but then we wouldn't have this part of the lesson! :-)
8226 To do this, I choose the toolbox icon that looks like a magic wand
8227 with a light on the end, with the tooltip "Select Contiguous Regions".
8229 This tool will select everything that's of similar color to the place
8230 where I click. How close it needs to be is defined by the Threshold
8231 in the tool options: if you set Threshold to 0, then only identical
8232 colors will be selected. For this particular example, make sure
8233 Feather Edges is turned off. What I'll do is select the background,
8234 because it's all one color, whereas Tux isn't.
8236 A very similar tool is Select by Color. In gimp 2 it's in the
8237 toolbox right next to Contiguous Regions; in 1.2 it's in the menus,
8238 Select->By Color. If you click on a white pixel, then EVERY white
8239 pixel in the image becomes selected. Try it on Tux! You won't want
8240 it for this exercise, but it's a very useful tool for some images.
8242 With the Contiguous Regions tool chosen, I click anywhere in the white
8243 background. Voila! I see marching ants around the edge of Tux, and
8244 also around the outside edge of the image. The background is now selected.
8246 But I don't actually want the background, I want Tux himself. I want
8247 the selection to be the exact opposite of what it is. That's easy to
8248 fix: Select->Invert. Now Tux is selected: I still see the marching
8249 ants around him, but no longer see them around the edge of the image.
8251 Now I'm ready to Copy, then Paste into the photo. Click on New Layer,
8252 select the move tool, drag the Tux layer to where I want him ...
8253 and voila, Tux Visits the Mitten Fault!
8254 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-tux.jpg
8257 Select something from one image (using any selection tool) and paste
8258 it into another image.
8260 Next lesson: basic drawing tools.
8263 From photopoppy@gmail.com Sat Feb 19 14:32:07 2005
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8313 Ok, so maybe I'm strange, but here's my homework anyway. This was too
8314 much fun, and I'm still playing with the text tool from last week, too
8317 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson_4.jpg
8319 If anyone wants to see them, I can put the original images up, too.
8324 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sat Feb 19 17:57:28 2005
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8371 Poppy Casper writes:
8372 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson_4.jpg
8374 That's so cute that I just went in and added a section on
8375 making cartoon thought bubbles to next week's drawing lesson. :-)
8379 From kjersti.b.berg@start.no Sun Feb 20 00:42:51 2005
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8396 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Import RAW files
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8427 I have been doing my homework, will upload later. For now I have a
8428 question though. I have been taking some pictures in raw format and
8429 would like to open these with gimp. There are some plugins around, I
8430 have tried two of them, rawphot and ufraw, but I can't get them to work,
8431 and I can't understand what I'm doing wrong.
8433 I have installed dcraw (compiled and put in /usr/local/bin) and I can
8434 run this from the command line.
8436 I have tried to install rawphoto by using gimptool, but it doesn't seem
8437 to have any effect when I try to open the raw files. Anyone used this? I
8438 don't even know what to look for. (Feeling very stupid right now.)
8440 I also tried to install ufraw. When I tried compiling it failed. So I
8441 tried using an rpm (earlier version), and since I installed Gimp from
8442 source as well, I had to use the nodeps option. I don't know if this
8443 could cause it to break. (I checked that all libs were there.) Anyone
8444 ever tried this plugin? How can I tell if it works? Opening a raw file
8445 causes Gimp to complain about unknown file format.
8447 Although I suppose I could just use dcraw from the command line, I would
8448 sure like to integrate it with Gimp if I can.
8450 Any suggestions much appreciated.
8455 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sun Feb 20 12:44:49 2005
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8473 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
8474 To: courses@linuxchix.org
8475 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Import RAW files
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8504 Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg writes:
8505 > I have been doing my homework, will upload later. For now I have a
8506 > question though. I have been taking some pictures in raw format and
8507 > would like to open these with gimp. There are some plugins around, I
8509 I haven't used it myself, but I wonder if perhaps it uses its own
8510 dialog, rather than plugging in to the gimp's normal file open?
8512 Try using the plug-in browser: Xtns->Plug-In Browser...
8513 Find the plugin in the list, click on it, and see if it has inserted
8514 itself into any menus.
8516 Plug-in authors are often not very clear about where their plug-ins
8517 install themselves (I have been guilty of this myself in the past).
8518 Hint for plugin authors: I installed some plug-ins recently where the
8519 Makefile, after it finished with "make install", echoed several lines
8520 telling me exactly where I would find the new functions. Great idea!
8521 I went and added that to my own plugins. (And of course, mentioning
8522 that information on the web page for the plug-in is even better.)
8526 From kproot@nerim.net Sun Feb 20 05:52:58 2005
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8573 Yay! what a professional result you get with close-up + drop-shadow! :)
8575 Here is the lesson translated into french, with my homework :
8576 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=17
8578 I am happy I could do that close-up because it reminds me that each time
8579 I draw with pencils I'm so close to the paper that I only see those
8580 rough pencil lines, but in the end it turns out not so bad.
8582 And I should have put more effort into integrating Tux with my sister,
8583 as he is still a bit yellowish... but anyway Tux is flat, so I wonder if
8584 I could get him look really real ;)
8588 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Sun Feb 20 06:51:10 2005
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8638 For my homework I used a picture I took last summer of my tabby-point
8639 siamese (is there such a thing?) Shorty:
8641 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/shorty1.jpg I used the elliptical
8642 selection tool and added a drop shadow
8644 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/shorty2.jpg I tried getting rid of the
8645 background using a combination of the color selection and contiguous region
8646 selection tools, then I discovered by accident that the erasor tool will
8647 work inside a selection and leave the outside stuff alone.
8649 I ended up with a white circle with a cat innit :) which is
8650 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/shorty3.jpg and
8652 in http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/shorty4.jpg I discovered the opacity
8653 slider bar in the Layers, Channels and Paths dialogue and put lots of
8654 little ghost cats all around.
8656 My original is http://www.bobsloansampler.com/shorty.jpg
8658 This is fun; sorry if I'm being a bit silly with it.
8664 On Friday 18 February 2005 04:56 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
8665 > In this lesson we'll explore some of GIMP's basic selection tools,
8666 > and some tricks for combining several images. I'll conclude by
8667 > showing how to paste Tux, the Linux penguin, into photos.
8669 > I'll start with a photo of the Mitten Fault on the Green River
8670 > in Utah's Dinosaur National Monument:
8671 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault.jpg
8672 > (that's a scaled-down version for the web.)
8674 > It's a cool place. But one thing you can't easily see in the
8675 > scaled-down version: down by the sandbar in the lower right quarter
8676 > of the picture are two kayakers coming down the river. I'd like
8677 > to show a magnified version of those kayakers on the same image
8678 > that shows the whole scene.
8680 > I start by loading the full-sized image into gimp. But I'll need
8681 > to work with both the full sized version and a scaled-down copy,
8682 > so the first step is Image->Duplicate to make a second copy.
8683 > (Of course, I could also use cp in the shell, then open that
8684 > file in gimp.) Then I scale the copy much smaller, 550 pixels wide.
8686 > The next step is to go back to the original image and select the
8687 > kayakers. I'll use the simplest selection tool for this: the
8688 > rectangular selection tool, the very first tool in the gimp toolbox.
8689 > (It's probably already selected by default when you start gimp.)
8691 > Go to the large image, and select as though you were using the
8692 > Crop tool: start at the upper left of the area you want, mouse down,
8693 > and drag down to the lower right. Gimp will draw lines to show you
8694 > the box while you're dragging out the selection, and when you release
8695 > the mouse button, the selection is shown by a black-and-white dashed
8696 > line where the blacks and whites continuously change. In gimp
8697 > parlance, this line is called the "marching ants".
8699 > Gimp's selection tools aren't as smart as crop, so you can't change
8700 > a selection's size easily once you've made it. (You can move it;
8701 > I'll talk about that later.) So if the selection you made isn't quite
8702 > right, click somewhere outside the marching-ants box (this will cancel
8703 > the selection) then try again, until you get the selection where you
8704 > want it. (Be careful about clicking inside the selection: if you
8705 > click inside a selection then drag, gimp moves the contents of the
8706 > selection and leaves a white rectangle behind, which is almost never
8707 > what you want. If this happens accidentally, Undo will fix it.)
8709 > When you have a selection, lots of things act a little differently in
8710 > gimp. Most filters (for instance, the brightness tools discussed in
8711 > lesson 2) will only act on the selection, not the rest of the image;
8712 > and most drawing tools won't draw outside the selection. We'll use
8713 > that for some useful effects later.
8715 > For now, though, what I want to do is copy the selection from the
8716 > big image, then paste it into the small image. So I copy it:
8717 > Edit->Copy, or just ctrl-C.
8719 > Now I can go to the small image, and paste it: Edit->Paste, or ctrl-V.
8721 > What happened? It pasted the selection as a new layer in the smaller
8722 > image, which you can see in the Layers dialog: it probably says New
8723 > Image, or Pasted Image. But it's a Floating layer, which may not be
8724 > obvious from the name. Gimp 1.2 will call it a Floating layer, but
8725 > gimp 2 just shows marching ants to show that it's different from a
8726 > normal layer (so it looks just like a selection). Click the New Layer
8727 > button in the Layers dialog now to make it a normal layer.
8729 > The rectangle didn't paste at the place where I wanted it.
8730 > So the next step is to move it. I can do that by selecting the move
8731 > tool: the same crossed arrow icon in the toolbox that we used to move
8732 > the text layer around in lesson 3. Using the move tool, I'll drag my
8733 > box down to the green area in the lower right of the image.
8735 > What if I want to see what the image looks like without that
8736 > dotted-line layer boundary? Selecting the other layer (probably
8737 > called "Background") in the layers dialog will draw the outline
8738 > around that layer (the whole image) instead of the smaller layer.
8740 > Now I have my little box showing kayakers pasted on top of my
8741 > scaled-down image. But it looks weird -- it's hard to tell that
8742 > that rectangle is something I put there intentionally. So how
8743 > can I fix that? Easy: add a drop shadow!
8744 > (Script-fu->Shadow->Drop-Shadow... just like in lesson 3.)
8745 > I could even use a different color for my drop shadow to make it stand
8746 > out more, though in this case I couldn't find one that didn't look
8747 > garish. If I save the image now as jpg (of course I have to let gimp
8748 > export it since I now have multiple layers), it looks like this:
8749 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-insert.jpg
8751 > But rectangular isn't the only type of selection gimp has. Right next
8752 > to the rectangular selection tool is ellipse select. It works the
8753 > same way as rectangular select, only it lets you make ovals and
8754 > circles instead of rectangles and squares.
8756 > If I follow exactly the same procedure as before, but I use ellipse
8757 > select instead of rectangular, and play with the drop shadow color,
8758 > I get the rather strange looking:
8759 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-ellipse.jpg
8761 > To close the lesson, I'll talk about one more selection tool:
8762 > well, actually two closely related ones, Select Contiguous Regions
8763 > and Select By Color. And who better to introduce these useful tools
8764 > than everybody's favorite penguin?
8765 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/tux-large.gif
8767 > (Incidentally, Tux was created by Larry Ewing, drawn freehand in
8768 > gimp version 0.54. It's legal to use him or make changes as
8769 > long as you credit Larry Ewing and the GIMP if anyone asks.
8770 > The artist has a page describing how he was drawn:
8771 > http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/notes.html )
8773 > Now, Tux is cute all by himself, but what if I want to take him
8774 > along on my trip to see the Mitten fault?
8776 > First I decide how big he'll need to be. 100 pixels high looks about
8777 > right; so I scale Tux to that size.
8779 > Next, I need to select Tux (but not the background around him),
8780 > so I can paste him into the photo.
8782 > To do that, I need to select Tux himself, and not that white
8783 > background behind him. (Or I could go download a tux image that
8784 > already has a transparent background from Larry Ewing's page --
8785 > but then we wouldn't have this part of the lesson! :-)
8787 > To do this, I choose the toolbox icon that looks like a magic wand
8788 > with a light on the end, with the tooltip "Select Contiguous Regions".
8790 > This tool will select everything that's of similar color to the place
8791 > where I click. How close it needs to be is defined by the Threshold
8792 > in the tool options: if you set Threshold to 0, then only identical
8793 > colors will be selected. For this particular example, make sure
8794 > Feather Edges is turned off. What I'll do is select the background,
8795 > because it's all one color, whereas Tux isn't.
8797 > A very similar tool is Select by Color. In gimp 2 it's in the
8798 > toolbox right next to Contiguous Regions; in 1.2 it's in the menus,
8799 > Select->By Color. If you click on a white pixel, then EVERY white
8800 > pixel in the image becomes selected. Try it on Tux! You won't want
8801 > it for this exercise, but it's a very useful tool for some images.
8803 > With the Contiguous Regions tool chosen, I click anywhere in the white
8804 > background. Voila! I see marching ants around the edge of Tux, and
8805 > also around the outside edge of the image. The background is now
8808 > But I don't actually want the background, I want Tux himself. I want
8809 > the selection to be the exact opposite of what it is. That's easy to
8810 > fix: Select->Invert. Now Tux is selected: I still see the marching
8811 > ants around him, but no longer see them around the edge of the image.
8813 > Now I'm ready to Copy, then Paste into the photo. Click on New Layer,
8814 > select the move tool, drag the Tux layer to where I want him ...
8815 > and voila, Tux Visits the Mitten Fault!
8816 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson4/mittenfault-tux.jpg
8819 > Select something from one image (using any selection tool) and paste
8820 > it into another image.
8822 > Next lesson: basic drawing tools.
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8880 On Saturday 19 February 2005 02:51 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
8884 > I ended up with a white circle with a cat innit :)
8888 > My original is http://www.bobsloansampler.com/shorty.jpg
8891 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/shorty.jpg
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8945 I went looking for Tux in Google Images, and found many, many versions
8946 of him. Some were .jpg, some were .png, some were .gif, and they were
8947 of many different sizes -- does it matter which you use for working on
8948 in the gimp? Are some better in quality than others in the final product?
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9021 > I went looking for Tux in Google Images, and found many, many versions
9022 > of him. Some were .jpg, some were .png, some were .gif, and they were
9023 > of many different sizes -- does it matter which you use for working on
9024 > in the gimp? Are some better in quality than others in the final product?
9026 This seems to be the official Tux homepage:
9027 http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
9029 Or at least, it's the one that Linus Torvalds links to from
9030 http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/torvalds/ !
9032 For importing images I'd suggest finding a PNG or GIF image of the right
9033 size rather than a JPG. Reason? JPG is lossy (some details are lost or
9034 changed on saving and loading), PNG and GIF are lossless.
9036 You could also try finding an SVG Tux. SVG is a vector based graphics
9037 format, which means that SVG images can be resized withut graininess.
9038 (Essentially, a vector format image stores lines and curves, which can
9039 be scaled up or down mathematically. JPEGs, GIFs, PNGs, XCFs etc are all
9040 pixel based, and get scaled up by making the pixels bigger, giving you
9041 that grainy look if you get too big.)
9043 The GIMP is a pixel based editing program, so if you find an SVG Tux
9044 you'll need to scale him to the right size and export him to a pixel
9045 format (PNG probably). I think you can get an SVG importer for new
9046 versions of the GIMP: other programs that can read SVG and export it
9047 include Sodipodi and Inkscape(?).
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9182 On Sun, Feb 20, 2005, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
9183 > On Sunday 20 Feb 2005 5:25 am, Mary wrote:
9184 > > For importing images I'd suggest finding a PNG or GIF image of the
9187 > heard somewhere that GIF is to be avoided for copyright reasons?
9189 For patent reasons[1]: because the compression algorithm used was/is
9190 patented, and people who wanted to write something (like the GIMP!) that
9191 saved in that format were meant to pay royalties.
9193 The patent has now expired in the US.
9195 See http://burnallgifs.org/archives/ for info.
9199 [1] They're different things: copyright is a legal right to control
9200 copies of a creative work, a patent is a legal monopoly for a period of
9201 time over a design/process/idea.
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9263 On Sunday 20 Feb 2005 8:26 am, Mary wrote:
9264 > [1] They're different things: copyright is a legal right to control
9265 > copies of a creative work, a patent is a legal monopoly for a period of
9266 > time over a design/process/idea.
9268 strange are the ways of the world! I'm a lawyer - at a recent linux meet i=
9270 gave a coupla talks on programming to a hall full of programmers, and sever=
9272 people protested that if lawyers started programming, programmers would los=
9274 their jobs. And then i listened to *four* talks on law by computer=20
9275 programmers - so what happens to the lawyer's jobs?=20
9281 http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon
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9319 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] GIF patent
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9352 On Sun, Feb 20, 2005, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
9353 > strange are the ways of the world! I'm a lawyer - at a recent linux meet i
9354 > gave a coupla talks on programming to a hall full of programmers, and several
9355 > people protested that if lawyers started programming, programmers would lose
9356 > their jobs. And then i listened to *four* talks on law by computer
9357 > programmers - so what happens to the lawyer's jobs?
9361 I'm sure you know how important it is for people working on software to
9362 know intellectual property law at least to an approximation -- I doubt
9363 that they'll do much for lawyer's jobs: for starters in most countries
9364 they need a law degree to be able to do a lot of the actual paid work.
9365 And once they have a law degree... they're lawyers.
9367 As for lawyers programming -- well, I've met a lot of people who program
9368 as part of their job: scientists and medical practicioners usually. I
9369 also know people who've become programmers having started out as
9370 psychologists, artists and architects. I'm sure lawyers won't make a
9371 significant difference to the employability of programmers. Besides, if
9372 a lawyer programs... she's a programmer.
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9428 On Saturday 19 February 2005 21:27, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
9429 > On Sunday 20 Feb 2005 5:25 am, Mary wrote:
9431 > > For importing images I'd suggest finding a PNG or GIF image of the
9434 > heard somewhere that GIF is to be avoided for copyright reasons?
9436 The LZW compression algorithm used in GIF files was patented. The
9437 developers of GIF got the algorithm out of a magazine, and didn't know it
9440 Unisys, the holder of the patent, didn't do anything about it until 1994,
9441 until they decided that anyone making software that created or read the GIF
9442 format should have to license their patent.
9444 It no longer matters now. The patent has expired in the US, Europe, Canada,
9445 and Japan, which as far as I know is everywhere that Unisys bothered to
9446 patent it. The algorithm is now public domain, and no one has to license
9449 Still, though, the patent didn't expire in the US until 2003, and ran
9450 through June of 2004 in Europe, Canada, and Japan.
9452 The Unix "compress" program ran into the same problem, as it also used LZW
9453 compression (and there as well, the creator got it from a published
9454 article, and had no idea it was patented).
9456 For end users, it was never a problem, since Unisys never asked end users of
9457 software to license their patent -- only programmers creating software to
9458 read/write GIFs. And now it's no longer a problem for them.
9460 For more history, see:
9462 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/6/19/35919/4079
9465 |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel@earthlink.net>
9466 ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me.
9467 |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
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9490 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Tux, image formats, and a drag-n-drop tip
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9523 > I realize I am a little behind here but a few quick questions:
9525 > 1) I should always save in the native *.xcf before doing alterations?
9526 > I did that with this image.
9528 It never hurts, but you don't really need to save as .xcf unless
9529 you're using multiple layers, or have other gimpish things like
9530 a complicated selection that you don't want to lose. Otherwise,
9531 just making a copy of the original .jpg or whatever is fine.
9532 (But do that from the shell: cp img.jpg img-orig.jpg or similar.
9533 Don't read the file into gimp then save back as jpg unless you're
9534 making changes. JPG is "lossy", which means that every time you
9535 read it in then write it out again, you lose a little bit of quality,
9536 so don't do that any more times than you have to.)
9538 If you want to store an intermediate version but you don't need
9539 layers, use png or tiff (I recommend png). They're much bigger
9540 than jpg but they're not lossy.
9542 My overview of image formats: http://shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html
9544 > 2) These images were large so I worked on them in their original large
9545 > size and then reduced them using the techniques from lesson 1. Is that
9546 > the proper thing to do or should I reduce them first? Which sequence
9547 > gives better image quality: alter first and then reduce or reduce and
9550 Most of the time, working at full size and reducing at the very end
9551 gives better quality. There are a few cases where that might not
9552 be true: rescaling text or intricate line drawings sometimes makes
9553 the result look "jaggy", so if you're going to add text or drawings
9554 it may be better to rescale the image before adding them.
9556 > I must say this really quite a good course Akkana. Thanks!
9558 Thanks! I'm glad you like it.
9560 Patricia Peck writes:
9561 > I went looking for Tux in Google Images, and found many, many versions
9562 > of him. Some were .jpg, some were .png, some were .gif, and they were
9563 > of many different sizes -- does it matter which you use for working on
9564 > in the gimp? Are some better in quality than others in the final product?
9566 The "imageformats" page I mentioned above should give some background
9567 on the formats: since Tux only has a few colors, gif or indexed png
9568 is usually the most efficient format for him, but if you add him
9569 to a full color photograph, you're best off saving the
9572 But talking about searching Google Images seems like a good time to
9573 introduce a hot gimp tip: Drag 'n' drop!
9575 Both mozilla and gimp are quite smart about drag-n-drop, so if you
9576 have gimp open, you can drag from any image being displayed in a
9577 mozilla-based browser and drop onto the gimp toolbox, and the image
9578 will open in gimp. (I don't know if konqueror supports d-n-d or not.)
9580 Of course, you want to be looking at the full sized image in the browser;
9581 if you drag a thumbnail, the thumbnail is what gimp will open.
9583 You can even drag from mozilla into a current gimp image window,
9584 and gimp 2 will make a new layer consisting of that image.
9586 I hear middleclick-paste onto the gimp toolbox window is supposed
9587 to work in CVS versions of gimp (just like it does in mozilla --
9588 middleclick on the window opens the selection as a filename or url),
9589 but that doesn't work in current versions yet.
9593 From kjersti.b.berg@start.no Mon Feb 21 00:13:42 2005
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9611 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson4: Basic selection tools, and copy/paste
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9639 Here's my homework for this and the previous lesson.
9641 http://home.no.net/tuttings/
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9697 I want extra credit ;-) so I did more homework.
9699 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/gates.jpg
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9755 Whew! I had a hard time with this one for some reason, but here's my
9756 homework for Lesson 4.
9758 The first image takes a couple of people on the right side of the photo
9759 and puts them in an ellipse on the left side:
9761 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/chandlerfolks.jpg
9763 The second (and best) part of the homework has our friend Tux working
9764 on... well, under... the street:
9766 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/chandlerSTux.jpg
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9887 I'm finally getting a bit caught up on the lessons. I've really
9888 enjoyed seeing everyone's pictures. Keep it coming, it is extremely
9889 informative. These have been the best exercises. I've spent hours
9890 and hours messing around with all this stuff. It is just incredible!
9892 Here are my pics from lesson three. I love that drop shadow feature.
9894 http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework3.html
9896 Here is my pic from lesson four. This was really difficult, but a lot
9897 of fun to do. It is just amazing what you can do with Gimp.
9899 http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework4.html
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9962 On Sunday 27 Feb 2005 4:25 pm, Wendy Mores wrote:
9963 > Here is my pic from lesson four. =C2=A0This was really difficult, but a
9964 > lot of fun to do. =C2=A0It is just amazing what you can do with Gimp.
9966 > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework4.html
9974 http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon
9975 tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net
9976 =E0=B2=87=E0=B2=82=E0=B2=A1=E0=B3=8D=E0=B2=B2=E0=B2=BF=E0=B2=A8=E0=B2=95=E0=
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9979 From kjersti.b.berg@start.no Mon Feb 28 00:37:14 2005
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9997 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson4: Basic selection tools, and copy/paste
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10026 s=F8n, 27.02.2005 kl. 11.55 skrev Wendy Mores:
10027 > I'm finally getting a bit caught up on the lessons. I've really
10028 > enjoyed seeing everyone's pictures. Keep it coming, it is extremely
10029 > informative. These have been the best exercises. I've spent hours
10030 > and hours messing around with all this stuff. It is just incredible!
10032 > Here are my pics from lesson three. I love that drop shadow feature.
10034 > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework3.html
10036 > Here is my pic from lesson four. This was really difficult, but a lot
10037 > of fun to do. It is just amazing what you can do with Gimp.
10039 > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework4.html
10042 Wow! Very cool. Is that shadow done with drop-shadow?=20
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10100 Drop shadow was used for the text on the valentines cards but the
10101 shadow behind Elmo on Mars was a little bit more complicated. It is
10102 essentially just a copy of the Elmo layer. On the copy, I changed the
10103 contrast to minimum to make it grey, selected the Elmo area with the
10104 magic wand and then filled it with black with the bucket. Shadow was
10105 dragged out and put to the side with a perspective tool on the tool
10106 bar and to finish it up, I played with the opacity bar so you see the
10109 The shadow proved a bit challenging because I guess I've never really
10110 had a good look at shadows that people throw. I want to take a few
10111 pictures of people and their shadows at different times of day to get
10112 a better idea of how long they would be and where they fall in
10113 relation to the light. Elmo's shadow is just a shot in the dark. I
10117 On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40:22 +0100, Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg
10118 <kjersti.b.berg@start.no> wrote:
10119 > s=F8n, 27.02.2005 kl. 11.55 skrev Wendy Mores:
10120 > > I'm finally getting a bit caught up on the lessons. I've really
10121 > > enjoyed seeing everyone's pictures. Keep it coming, it is extremely
10122 > > informative. These have been the best exercises. I've spent hours
10123 > > and hours messing around with all this stuff. It is just incredible!
10125 > > Here are my pics from lesson three. I love that drop shadow feature.
10127 > > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework3.html
10129 > > Here is my pic from lesson four. This was really difficult, but a lot
10130 > > of fun to do. It is just amazing what you can do with Gimp.
10132 > > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework4.html
10135 > Wow! Very cool. Is that shadow done with drop-shadow?
10140 > _______________________________________________
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10143 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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10200 s=F8n, 27.02.2005 kl. 21.27 skrev Wendy Mores:
10201 > Drop shadow was used for the text on the valentines cards but the
10202 > shadow behind Elmo on Mars was a little bit more complicated. It is
10203 > essentially just a copy of the Elmo layer. On the copy, I changed the
10204 > contrast to minimum to make it grey, selected the Elmo area with the
10205 > magic wand and then filled it with black with the bucket. Shadow was
10206 > dragged out and put to the side with a perspective tool on the tool
10207 > bar and to finish it up, I played with the opacity bar so you see the
10210 > The shadow proved a bit challenging because I guess I've never really
10211 > had a good look at shadows that people throw. I want to take a few
10212 > pictures of people and their shadows at different times of day to get
10213 > a better idea of how long they would be and where they fall in
10214 > relation to the light. Elmo's shadow is just a shot in the dark. I
10217 Thanks for the tip! I suspected there was more work behind the last one.
10224 > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40:22 +0100, Kjersti Bj=F8rnestad Berg
10225 > <kjersti.b.berg@start.no> wrote:
10226 > > s=F8n, 27.02.2005 kl. 11.55 skrev Wendy Mores:
10227 > > > I'm finally getting a bit caught up on the lessons. I've really
10228 > > > enjoyed seeing everyone's pictures. Keep it coming, it is extremel=
10230 > > > informative. These have been the best exercises. I've spent hours
10231 > > > and hours messing around with all this stuff. It is just incredibl=
10234 > > > Here are my pics from lesson three. I love that drop shadow feature=
10237 > > > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework3.html
10239 > > > Here is my pic from lesson four. This was really difficult, but a =
10241 > > > of fun to do. It is just amazing what you can do with Gimp.
10243 > > > http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/travellingelmo/homework4.html
10246 > > Wow! Very cool. Is that shadow done with drop-shadow?
10251 > > _______________________________________________
10252 > > Courses mailing list
10253 > > Courses@linuxchix.org
10254 > > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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10279 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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10303 For this lesson we'll take a step back from photographs, and
10304 learn how to use the gimp for drawing.
10306 Let's start with a blank canvas: File->New. You can make it any
10307 size you want, but it might be best to give yourself some space,
10308 say 640x480 or larger.
10310 A New Image window will open up filled with the current background
10311 color. It's probably white, if you haven't changed it, and that's
10312 a good canvas color for practicing drawing, though you can use any
10315 PENCIL AND PAINTBRUSH
10317 The two main drawing tools are the Pencil (draws hard-edged lines)
10318 and the Paintbrush (draws fuzzy-edged lines). For both of these
10319 tools, you can change the width of the stroke by changing the
10320 "brush". The current brush is shown at the bottom right of the
10321 toolbox, just to the right of the foreground/background color
10322 swatches. It's probably a small black circle by default.
10323 Click on it, and the brushes dialog comes up (you can also get
10324 the dialog through the menus, File->Dialogs->Brushes).
10325 In gimp2, you can also change the brush through a dropdown menu
10326 in the Tool Options part of the toolbox.
10328 Some of the brushes are silly, like the pepper. But play around
10329 with what's there and get an idea what they all do. Go ahead and
10330 scribble! Try changing color, brush, and tool.
10334 What if you want to draw a straight line?
10336 That's easy: shift-click. Click once (without the shift key) where
10337 you want the line to start, move to the other end of the line, and
10338 hold down the shift key. Gimp will show you where the line will be:
10339 and when you click (still holding shift), it will draw a straight
10340 line, using the current tool, color, and brush.
10342 This might be a good time to mention guides. If you ever need to
10343 position something accurately -- a selection, a line you're drawing,
10344 or a layer -- if you click on the ruler to the left of the image,
10345 and drag right, out into the image, you'll see a line follows you.
10346 That's a guide. When you release the mouse button, the guide will
10347 stay where you put it (and if you need it at a specific location,
10348 just watch the coordinates in the lower left corner of the image
10349 window until the coordinates are what you want). Similarly, you
10350 can drag from the top ruler, down, to get a horizontal guide.
10351 You can make as many guides as you want. They're not part of the
10352 image: they're just hints to help you position things accurately.
10353 If you make a selection and drag near a guide, the selection will
10354 "snap to" the guide. This is especially helpful for positioning
10355 elliptical selections.
10357 OTHER LINE DRAWING TOOLS
10359 A few other line drawing tools:
10361 Airbrush draws fuzzy lines that get bigger if you stay in one place.
10362 Ink Pen draws with an asymmetric brush -- it's good for calligraphy.
10363 Both these tools also respond to pressure if you have special hardware
10364 like a drawing tablet.
10365 Eraser: erases to the background color (or to transparent, if the
10366 layer you're drawing on has transparency).
10368 Finally, you can clear (erase) an area by selecting it, using any
10369 selection tool, then doing Edit->Clear. This is bound to Ctrl-K
10370 (like "clear to end of line" in the shell, emacs or most other
10371 linux programs) and I find I use it often enough that I usually
10372 use the key binding rather than the menus.
10374 Drawing, like most things in gimp, is undoable. If you've been
10375 scribbling away trying out some of these things, try undoing now:
10376 hit ctrl-Z repeatedly and watch your lines and squiggles disappear
10377 one by one, until you hit the limit of Gimp's Undo buffer. (This
10378 is configurable: in File->Preferences there's a setting for the size
10379 of the undo stack. Larger means more room for correcting oopses, but
10380 gimp will take up more memory.)
10384 Most of the time, the Bucket Fill tool is the one to use when you want
10385 a filled shape, like a circle or rectangle.
10387 First make a selection where you want the shape to be, using the
10388 rectangle or ellipse selection tool from lesson 4. You might even
10389 want to try the free select tool -- also known as the "Lasso tool" for
10390 its icon in the toolbox. This lets you make a selection of any shape,
10391 as long as you can draw it in one go without releasing the mouse
10392 button. You can even use free select to cut out shapes or people from
10393 an image -- but there are easier ways of doing that, as we'll discuss
10396 Then select Bucket Fill -- it looks like it's pouring paint from a
10397 paint can -- and click inside the selection. It should fill with the
10400 Bucket Fill has some interesting options, though. First, you can
10401 "fill whole selection" or "fill similar colors". "Whole selection"
10402 is obvious, and is most often what you want. "Similar colors" is a
10403 bit trickier: you can click on a pixel in a photograph, and bucket
10404 fill will try to fill nearby colors that are "similar enough" to the
10405 place where you clicked. You can adjust how similar they need to be
10406 with the Threshold slider. This can do strange things to your image;
10407 try it, if you have a photo loaded in gimp, but don't be surprised
10408 if you have to Undo.
10410 In addition, you can also bucket fill with a pattern. Try it:
10411 click Pattern Fill in the tool options dialog, select an area in the
10412 image, then click inside it.
10414 The currently chosen pattern is shown in a little square in the
10415 toolbox, just to the right of the active brush. Clicking on it
10416 brings up the Patterns dialog, where you can choose from a wide
10417 selection. Try some of them! Click on a pattern in the Patterns
10418 dialog (notice that the active pattern shown in the toolbox changes),
10419 then go back to the image and click on your selection again.
10423 Two final tools left to mention. One is the eraser (located near the
10424 paintbrush), which does the obvious. The other is that whenever you
10425 have something selected, you can Edit->Cut or Edit->Clear to erase the
10426 whole selection. (The difference is that Cut copies it so that you
10427 can paste it later, whereas Clear just erases it.)
10429 Here's the image I have left after scribbling around while writing this
10430 lesson. It looks like something a five-year-old made with Tux Paint. :-)
10431 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/art.jpg
10433 DRAWING ON TOP OF IMAGES
10435 For this lesson, we started with a blank canvas. But you can draw
10436 on top of a photo, too! For instance, how about cartoon thought
10437 bubbles, like Poppy's cat had in Lesson 4?
10439 I'll start with a photo of my last manager's dog, Polarbear, who used
10440 to brighten up our group meetings. Here he is at a meeting:
10441 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb.jpg
10443 Now I need some text. I can't make the thought bubble until I know
10444 how big the text is going to be. The text is in its own layer.
10445 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-text.jpg
10447 Now I'll make a new layer to hold my thought bubble. I very strongly
10448 recommend that you make a new layer for any drawing you do on top of
10449 an existing image. Any drawing you do in this layer will be optional:
10450 if you erase, you'll erase your drawing, not the original image, and
10451 if you decide you don't like your drawing, you can throw it all away
10452 and the image underneath will be fine.
10454 Go to the Layers dialog, and click the New Layer button. The new
10455 layer needs to be transparent (which should be the default). In the
10456 "Create a New Layer" dialog, I'll change the layer name to be "thought
10457 bubble" so it will be easy to remember which layer is which. You
10458 don't have to name your layer, but it will make things easier later
10459 when you make image with lots of layers. I click OK, and the new
10462 But here's a tricky part: I need the thought bubble to be underneath
10463 the text, not on top of it. The bubble layer needs to be in between
10464 the Background and the text layer. Right now, the thought bubble is
10465 on top, and if I draw a white area on it, that white area will hide
10466 the text behind it.
10468 I solve this by clicking the down arrow button in the Layers dialog to
10469 move the "thought bubble" layer down. The down and up arrows always
10470 move the currently selected layer.
10472 I'm finally ready to draw! I'll make my bubble oval: I use the
10473 elliptical selection tool until I have an oval just the right size.
10474 Then switch to the bucket fill tool, set the color to white (or pick
10475 "BG color fill" if the background color is already white), and click
10476 inside the oval but not on top of the text. Voila! A white thought
10477 bubble layer under the text. Now it looks like this:
10478 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-bubble.jpg
10480 Notice that the text isn't really centered on the bubble? It's fairly
10481 difficult to control exactly where an elliptical selection will end
10482 up, but that's okay: all I have to do is switch to the move tool, and
10483 drag the bubble layer around until I'm happy with its placement.
10484 (Notice that you can still see the selection outline, and it's no
10485 longer lined up with the bubble. I use Select->None to get rid of
10486 the selection once I no longer need it.)
10488 I'm not quite done yet, though. I still need some dots
10489 to link the thought bubble to the coot doing the thinking.
10490 I can either make another new layer for that, or draw it on the
10491 thought bubble layer. I'm going to make a new layer for it.
10492 Why? (1) it means I can change to a different shaped thought
10493 bubble layer, and (2) it means I can change my mind later about
10494 which bird is doing the thinking, and replace just that part.
10496 It isn't critical whether this new layer is above or below the thought
10497 bubble layer or text layer, because it won't overlap with either one
10498 of them. It's only when layers overlap that you need to worry about
10499 which one is on top.
10501 On this new layer (I called it "bubbles") I'll make several small
10502 circular selections and fill them each with white:
10503 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-allbubbles.jpg
10505 But there's still something missing. The small bubbles are hard to
10506 see against that busy background. Okay, class, what do we do when we
10507 want to make something stand out? You, there in the second row.
10508 That's right! A drop shadow! I make a drop shadow on the thought
10509 bubble layer, and another one on the bubbles layer.
10511 Here's the final image:
10512 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-meetings.jpg
10514 Since I made the thought bubble layer separate from the bubbles layer,
10515 I can even go back and try a different shape of thought bubble.
10516 If I toggle visibility off (remember, click on the "eye" icon in the
10517 layers dialog) on the thought bubble and its drop shadow, then use
10518 the lasso select tool to draw a puffy-cloud shape, fill it with
10519 bucket fill, then add a drop shadow, here's what I get:
10520 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-cloud.jpg
10522 Don't forget to save your image as .xcf as well as a .jpg! That way
10523 you can go back and make changes to any of these layers at any time.
10524 Mine is here (and you can see where I tried another set of bubbles,
10525 but decided they didn't work as well so I didn't use them):
10526 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/pb-meetings.xcf
10528 If you look at the xcf in gimp, you may notice that I've renamed
10529 all the various drop shadow layers. I was getting confused keeping
10530 track of which shadow layer went with which bubble, so I doubleclicked
10531 on each shadow layer and edited the name that way.
10533 Here's what my layers dialog looks like now (GIMP can take a screen shot
10534 of any window, with File->Aquire->Screen Shot, then click on the window):
10535 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson5/layersdialog.jpg
10537 Homework: either a drawing on a blank canvas, or something drawn
10538 on top of an existing image. Be silly! Be creative! Have fun!
10540 Next lesson: Removing unwanted objects from photos.
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10568 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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10592 Thanks, Akkana. That's a lot of information!
10594 Here's a sequence of mine.
10596 First of all, I discovered how to turn my old Paint Shop Pro "picture
10597 tubes" into GIMP brushes - sooo.... I converted a handful of my
10598 favorites. I love the pepper brush, but it's just not enough!
10600 I started with a 640x480 blank white "canvas"
10602 First of all, I added a gradient using the "fill with gradient" tool.
10603 I set sky blue as my foreground, white as my background, and fidgeted
10604 with the gradient tool until I had the sky line mostly straight.
10606 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_1.jpg
10608 Next, I added some trees with a tree brush in a separate layer:
10609 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_2.jpg
10611 After that, I made a third layer for the grass. Everything after this
10612 point needed to be scaled down to fit. The grass brush wanted to make
10613 each blade of grass nearly as tall as my canvas, so I had to scale
10614 down the layer after adding some grass. I filled the width of the
10615 screen by copying and pasting the same section, then merged all 5
10616 layers of grass together.
10617 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_3.jpg
10619 Next came the clouds:
10620 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_4.jpg
10623 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_5.jpg
10625 And, finally, I added some animals (butterflies and a cat), also from
10626 brushes. The butterflies were colored in using the "paint with ink"
10628 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_final.jpg
10630 The brushes I used are available at
10631 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/brushes.zip (3MB)
10635 From carol@gimp.org Sun Feb 27 16:51:57 2005
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10681 On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:38:25PM -0800, Poppy Casper wrote:
10682 > Thanks, Akkana. That's a lot of information!
10684 > Here's a sequence of mine.
10686 > First of all, I discovered how to turn my old Paint Shop Pro "picture
10687 > tubes" into GIMP brushes - sooo.... I converted a handful of my
10688 > favorites. I love the pepper brush, but it's just not enough!
10690 > I started with a 640x480 blank white "canvas"
10692 > First of all, I added a gradient using the "fill with gradient" tool.
10693 > I set sky blue as my foreground, white as my background, and fidgeted
10694 > with the gradient tool until I had the sky line mostly straight.
10696 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_1.jpg
10698 > Next, I added some trees with a tree brush in a separate layer:
10699 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_2.jpg
10701 > After that, I made a third layer for the grass. Everything after this
10702 > point needed to be scaled down to fit. The grass brush wanted to make
10703 > each blade of grass nearly as tall as my canvas, so I had to scale
10704 > down the layer after adding some grass. I filled the width of the
10705 > screen by copying and pasting the same section, then merged all 5
10706 > layers of grass together.
10707 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_3.jpg
10709 > Next came the clouds:
10710 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_4.jpg
10713 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_5.jpg
10715 > And, finally, I added some animals (butterflies and a cat), also from
10716 > brushes. The butterflies were colored in using the "paint with ink"
10718 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/lesson5_final.jpg
10720 > The brushes I used are available at
10721 > http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/brushes.zip (3MB)
10725 i checked for a couple of these images and they were not available.
10727 i did get the brushes, however.
10733 From photopoppy@gmail.com Sun Feb 27 16:52:26 2005
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10758 To: courses@linuxchix.org
10759 Subject: Fwd: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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10784 Since the file names were incorrect (capitalization is not my friend),
10785 I'm re-sending with the correct URLs:
10788 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
10790 Thanks, Akkana. That's a lot of information!
10792 Here's a sequence of mine.
10794 First of all, I discovered how to turn my old Paint Shop Pro "picture
10795 tubes" into GIMP brushes - sooo.... I converted a handful of my
10796 favorites. I love the pepper brush, but it's just not enough!
10798 I started with a 640x480 blank white "canvas"
10800 First of all, I added a gradient using the "fill with gradient" tool.
10801 I set sky blue as my foreground, white as my background, and fidgeted
10802 with the gradient tool until I had the sky line mostly straight.
10804 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_1.jpg
10806 Next, I added some trees with a tree brush in a separate layer:
10807 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_2.jpg
10809 After that, I made a third layer for the grass. Everything after this
10810 point needed to be scaled down to fit. The grass brush wanted to make
10811 each blade of grass nearly as tall as my canvas, so I had to scale
10812 down the layer after adding some grass. I filled the width of the
10813 screen by copying and pasting the same section, then merged all 5
10814 layers of grass together.
10815 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_3.jpg
10817 Next came the clouds:
10818 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_4.jpg
10821 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_5.jpg
10823 And, finally, I added some animals (butterflies and a cat), also from
10824 brushes. The butterflies were colored in using the "paint with ink"
10826 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/Lesson5_final.jpg
10828 The brushes I used are available at
10829 http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~sylph/Images/brushes.zip (3MB)
10833 From kproot@nerim.net Tue Mar 1 06:16:13 2005
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10851 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:16:09 +0100
10852 From: Karine Proot <kproot@nerim.net>
10853 To: courses@linuxchix.org
10854 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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10879 Good feeling like a 5 years old :D
10881 The translated course and my homework can be found at
10882 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=19
10884 I just added one thing to Akkana's course - filling with a gradient, because I just love that tool. It always takes me five seconds to remember you have to drag with it, only clicking will do nothing.
10886 Looking forward to the next lesson!
10889 From patpeck@znet.com Thu Mar 3 16:46:35 2005
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10940 Whew! I've finally done my homework for Lesson 5. Please bear in
10941 mind that I can't draw my way out of a paper bag with drawing materials,
10942 let alone with a mouse or trackball, so it's just a demonstration that I
10943 sort of got the lesson. In fact, I spent the first couple of days just
10944 playing with the drawing materials and doing what started out
10945 representational and ended up being an abstract. But hey, it was fun.
10947 Anyway, here's the homework:
10949 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson5.jpg
10955 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Fri Mar 4 17:14:21 2005
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11012 gimp Lesson 5 - drawing tools
11014 I'm no artist, but the straight line feature (shift-click) of the pencil
11015 tool is a lot of fun to play with. So I built a desk, in a room, with a
11016 monitor on the desk, and a window. I pasted a gif I had of a pile of
11017 smiley faces onto the monitor, along with a couple lines of text. I used
11018 the pencil & shift click and bucket fill to make a small stack of paper,
11019 and found X's in the brushes dialogue to make some marks on the paper.
11021 Then I found a cat to lay on my stack of paper and used the freehand select
11022 tool (and lots of "undo") to remove the previous background from around the
11023 cat, and after lots of trial and error also removed the white background I
11024 was left with. I used the "select contiguous regions" wand thingie and
11025 then select > invert while the white background was selected.
11027 At this time I decided I had too many layers, and the three layers on my
11028 monitor could be one. So, while making my cat invisible I merged the
11031 I have another cat who was on the refrigerator but I thought she would look
11032 good on the monitor, so I repeated the process I used with the other cat...
11033 but for some reason I can see stuff through her. I don't know what I did
11034 different. But on the layers, channels and paths dialogue is a "duplicate
11035 layer" button, which looks like two sheets of paper. I duplicated the
11036 monitor cat a couple of times and that darkened her up.
11038 I wanted a window, but when I pasted it into my picture it showed up in
11039 front of the monitor. so I clicked the eye to make it invisible and
11040 duplicated that part of the monitor it was covering up, and pasted that as
11041 a new layer. I had to rearrange the layers so the window was right on top
11042 of the background, then the monitor on top of that, then the cat (and her
11043 duplicates) on the monitor. I know I'm probably making this way too
11044 complicated. I added a window frame & sill and hung a picture on the wall
11045 and used "pattern fill" on the bucket dialogue to veneer those and to add
11046 texture to the wall... scattered some crap around the desk and added drop
11049 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5.jpg
11051 (before adding most of the layers)
11053 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5a.jpg
11055 (after adding them)
11057 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5.xcf
11059 (the xcf - well duh)
11065 no cats were harmed in making this image
11070 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Fri Mar 4 14:49:51 2005
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11122 On Friday 25 February 2005 07:48 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
11123 > For this lesson we'll take a step back from photographs, and
11124 > learn how to use the gimp for drawing.
11128 Sorry if this comes through twicet - first time isn't showing up an hour=20
11135 gimp Lesson 5 - drawing tools
11137 I'm no artist, but the straight line feature (shift-click) of the pencil=20
11138 tool is a lot of fun to play with. =A0So I built a desk, in a room, with a=
11140 monitor on the desk, and a window. =A0I pasted a gif I had of a pile of=20
11141 smiley faces onto the monitor, along with a couple lines of text. =A0I used=
11143 the pencil & shift click and bucket fill to make a small stack of paper,=20
11144 and found X's in the brushes dialogue to make some marks on the paper.=20
11146 Then I found a cat to lay on my stack of paper and used the freehand select=
11148 tool (and lots of "undo") to remove the previous background from around the=
11150 cat, and after lots of trial and error also removed the white background I=
11152 was left with. =A0I used the "select contiguous regions" wand thingie and=20
11153 then select > invert while the white background was selected.
11155 At this time I decided I had too many layers, and the three layers on my=20
11156 monitor could be one. =A0So, while making my cat invisible I merged the=20
11159 I have another cat who was on the refrigerator but I thought she would look=
11161 good on the monitor, so I repeated the process I used with the other cat...=
11163 but for some reason I can see stuff through her. =A0I don't know what I did=
11165 different. =A0But on the layers, channels and paths dialogue is a "duplicat=
11167 layer" button, which looks like two sheets of paper. =A0I duplicated the=20
11168 monitor cat a couple of times and that darkened her up. =A0
11170 I wanted a window, but when I pasted it into my picture it showed up in=20
11171 front of the monitor. =A0so I clicked the eye to make it invisible and=20
11172 duplicated that part of the monitor it was covering up, and pasted that as=
11174 a new layer. =A0I had to rearrange the layers so the window was right on to=
11176 of the background, then the monitor on top of that, then the cat (and her=20
11177 duplicates) on the monitor. =A0I know I'm probably making this way too=20
11178 complicated. =A0I added a window frame & sill and hung a picture on the wal=
11180 and used "pattern fill" on the bucket dialogue to veneer those and to add=20
11181 texture to the wall... scattered some crap around the desk and added drop=20
11182 shadows. =A0Taa daa.
11184 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5.jpg
11186 (before adding most of the layers)
11188 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5a.jpg
11190 (after adding them)
11192 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson5.xcf
11194 (the xcf - well duh)
11200 no cats were harmed in making this image
11203 From akkana@shallowsky.com Fri Mar 4 16:51:34 2005
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11222 To: courses@linuxchix.org
11223 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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11251 Wow, some of you already do stuff I don't know how to do in gimp,
11252 like making new brushes. It's been really fun (as always) to
11253 see everyone's homework projects!
11255 Julie Sloan writes:
11256 > Then I found a cat to lay on my stack of paper and used the freehand se=
11258 > tool (and lots of "undo") to remove the previous background from around=
11260 > cat, and after lots of trial and error also removed the white backgroun=
11264 Freehand select is hard to do accurantely, isn't it? Fortunately there's
11265 an easier way (Bezier select) -- I'll talk about that in Lesson 7.
11266 It's easier because you connect-the-dots to make an outline, so
11267 you can stop and take a breath and massage your cramped fingers.
11268 (It's easier for other reasons, too.)
11270 >=A0I used the "select contiguous regions" wand thingie and=20
11271 > then select > invert while the white background was selected.
11273 > I have another cat who was on the refrigerator but I thought she would =
11275 > good on the monitor, so I repeated the process I used with the other ca=
11277 > but for some reason I can see stuff through her. =A0I don't know what I=
11280 I'm not sure why either. But if you used "select contiguous regions" on
11281 the second cat, it might be that some areas got partially selected.
11282 She's already transparent by the time she shows up in the xcf --
11283 I checked to see if the layer had gotten transparent, but that
11284 wasn't it, so it must have been that for some reason she was only
11285 partially selected before you copied her.
11287 I'm also not sure how to make a partially transparent layer opaque
11288 again. I played with various operations and couldn't find an easy
11289 way. The best I found was to select the layer in the layers dialog,
11290 go back to the image and Copy, then Edit->Paste as New, then in the
11291 new image, do Image->Flatten Image. That gets a cat with the right
11292 color pattern, but with a white background. Then
11293 Layer->Transparency->Add Alpha Channel so the new image can do
11294 transparency again, Select by Color to select the white background,
11295 Clear, Copy, then paste back into the original image.
11297 What a pain! There must be a better way, but I couldn't find it.
11299 > layer" button, which looks like two sheets of paper. =A0I duplicated th=
11301 > monitor cat a couple of times and that darkened her up. =A0
11303 But that's a clever workaround! And a lot easier than my long method.
11305 > I wanted a window, but when I pasted it into my picture it showed up in=
11307 > front of the monitor. =A0so I clicked the eye to make it invisible and=20
11308 > duplicated that part of the monitor it was covering up, and pasted that=
11310 > a new layer. =A0I had to rearrange the layers so the window was right o=
11312 > of the background, then the monitor on top of that, then the cat (and h=
11314 > duplicates) on the monitor. =A0I know I'm probably making this way too=20
11317 Sometimes that's exactly what you have to do when you have two figures
11318 intertwined: duplicate part of a layer and move it up or down in the
11319 stack. One thing you can do to make it a little easier is to use
11320 one layer to select part of another layer. For instance, in
11321 http://shallowsky.com/software/justmoon/justmoon.jpg
11322 I wanted the j and the m to intertwine. So I put the j layer
11323 (and its shadow) on top, and then on the layer with the m, I
11324 used "select by color" or some similar tool to select the m,
11325 then went back to the j layer and did Edit->Clear to cut that part out.
11326 Alternately, I could have put the j underneath, used the m to select
11327 the part of the j that needed to be on top, duplicated that part of
11328 the j and made a new layer on top of the m.
11332 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Fri Mar 4 17:36:03 2005
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11352 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
11353 To: courses@linuxchix.org
11354 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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11384 On Friday 04 March 2005 12:25 am, Akkana Peck wrote:
11385 > Wow, some of you already do stuff I don't know how to do in gimp,
11386 > like making new brushes.=20
11388 That wasn't me :) =20
11390 > Julie Sloan writes:
11391 > > Then I found a cat to lay on my stack of paper and used the freehand
11392 > > select tool (and lots of "undo") to remove the previous background from
11393 > > around the cat, and after lots of trial and error also removed the
11394 > > white background I was left with.
11396 > Freehand select is hard to do accurantely, isn't it?
11398 Yes it is! I found it's easier to select bits and pieces to remove than tr=
11400 to select all of what I want to keep. Then I select that and paste it into=
11402 a new temporary image, to play with background colors and make sure I have=
11404 all the little snips of whatever gone.
11406 > > I have another cat who was on the refrigerator but I thought she would
11407 > > look good on the monitor, so I repeated the process I used with the
11408 > > other cat... but for some reason I can see stuff through her. =A0I don't
11409 > > know what I did
11411 > I'm not sure why either. But if you used "select contiguous regions" on
11412 > the second cat, it might be that some areas got partially selected.
11413 > She's already transparent by the time she shows up in the xcf --
11414 > I checked to see if the layer had gotten transparent, but that
11415 > wasn't it, so it must have been that for some reason she was only
11416 > partially selected before you copied her.
11418 I noticed later I had the "threshold" on the wand tool set higher than the=
11420 default 15, by accident. Don't know if that would cause it or not. Also=20
11421 later on I somehow lost the original black cat layer and ended up with only=
11423 the three duplicates! This, or something, made her green eye color=20
11424 disappear and I could not get it back on the first few tries, and I had=20
11425 more to do, so I moved on.
11427 > I'm also not sure how to make a partially transparent layer opaque
11428 > again. I played with various operations and couldn't find an easy
11429 > way. The best I found was to select the layer in the layers dialog,
11430 > go back to the image and Copy, then Edit->Paste as New, then in the
11431 > new image, do Image->Flatten Image. That gets a cat with the right
11432 > color pattern, but with a white background. Then
11433 > Layer->Transparency->Add Alpha Channel so the new image can do
11434 > transparency again, Select by Color to select the white background,
11435 > Clear, Copy, then paste back into the original image.
11437 I'm going to practice that. It took me forever and lots of trial and erro=
11439 to get rid of the white backgrounds around the cats, because I could _not_=
11441 find "select by color", although I'd used it before. Looked just now, and=
11443 it's right there. Maybe my monitorcat-of-the-hour had his or her tail in=20
11446 > One thing you can do to make it a little easier is to use
11447 > one layer to select part of another layer. For instance, in
11448 > http://shallowsky.com/software/justmoon/justmoon.jpg
11449 > I wanted the j and the m to intertwine. So I put the j layer
11450 > (and its shadow) on top, and then on the layer with the m, I
11451 > used "select by color" or some similar tool to select the m,
11453 That's _cool_ looking. I need to play with intertwining stuff like that,=
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11514 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:25:19 -0800, Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
11515 > Wow, some of you already do stuff I don't know how to do in gimp,
11516 > like making new brushes. It's been really fun (as always) to
11517 > see everyone's homework projects!
11520 I don't so much already know how to do a lot of stuff as know how to
11521 use google really, really well ;-)
11525 From akkana@shallowsky.com Fri Mar 4 16:44:02 2005
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11574 PS: I meant to comment earlier in the discussion of Elmo's shadow that I
11575 thought the shadow looked really well done. Those aren't that easy to
11576 do. I did a somewhat similar project for a holiday card a few
11577 years back: http://shallowsky.com/images/cards/xmascard2002.jpg.
11578 Adding myself was easy, but putting in a shadow that looked halfway
11579 decent was the hardest part. And now that I look at it again,
11580 I like Elmo's shadow better and want to go back and re-do mine. :-)
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11634 On Friday 25 February 2005 07:48 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
11635 > For this lesson we'll take a step back from photographs, and
11636 > learn how to use the gimp for drawing.
11640 I'd like to add something here, on drawing :)
11643 Years ago my father was back in school and taking a drafting course. I was
11644 interested, so he explained his homework to me. I thought "foreshortening"
11645 was way cool and still remember how:
11647 To make a room (for example), you begin with a rectangle, then place a dot
11648 ANYWHERE inside that rectangle. From this spot all your lines will
11649 radiate. Beginning at the spot and passing precisely through each corner
11650 of your rectangle, you make your floor/wall and floor/ceiling junctures.
11651 Other lines placed at random (but also beginning at that same spot) can be
11652 used to locate windows, wall hangings, rugs, even furniture!
11654 I used the Gimp's patterns and "pattern fill" option of the bucket tool to
11655 make a quick example:
11657 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/room.jpg
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11685 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 5: Basic Drawing Tools
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11712 Julie Sloan writes:
11713 > To make a room (for example), you begin with a rectangle, then place a dot
11714 > ANYWHERE inside that rectangle. From this spot all your lines will
11716 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/room.jpg
11718 That's cool! Neat example!
11720 Gimp has tool called Perspective: in gimp 1.2, it's an option on the
11721 Rotate tool, while in gimp 2 it has its own button in the toolbox.
11723 The perspective tool is a different sort of thing: it can take existing
11724 images and change them to fit in a "room" like in Julie's example, or
11725 make them into a 3-dimensional object: select the perspective tool,
11726 click on the image, then drag the mouse around, you can take something
11727 that started rectangular and make it look like it's going away or coming
11728 toward you. It's very useful for doing things like sides of boxes,
11729 like the right side of the box in
11730 http://shallowsky.com/software/pandora/pandora.jpg -- that's just a
11731 rectangular selection, fill with a woodgrain pattern, rotate,
11732 use the perspective tool, and finally darken it a little.
11734 The tool isn't a replacement for making a perspective drawing like
11735 Julie's example: that "lines radiating from points" is a really useful
11736 technique to know, and seeing a "room" like that makes it a lot easier
11737 to understand how perspective works. They'd work really well together,
11738 too: draw the room first, with the windows and everything else you want
11739 to draw, then paste objects copied from other images and make them look
11740 right in the room using the tool.
11742 The "shear" tool, right next to perspective, is also fun to play
11743 with. Sometimes you can combine it with perspective and rotate.
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11801 On Saturday 05 March 2005 10:17 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
11803 > Gimp has tool called Perspective: in gimp 1.2, it's an option on the
11804 > Rotate tool, while in gimp 2 it has its own button in the toolbox.
11806 > The perspective tool is a different sort of thing: it can take existing
11807 > images and change them to fit in a "room" like in Julie's example, or
11808 > make them into a 3-dimensional object
11810 Yay! So with a little practice I can place photos in the picture frames on
11813 BTW I have my hands full cleaning up literally hundreds of pictures now that
11814 I know how to smudge, etc. Thanks a LOT, Akkana!!! ;) I just couldn't
11815 stop myself showing off, so it's my own fault. (Husband's aunt -the family
11816 genealogist- will be bringing me all her crinkled old family photos next,
11822 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sat Mar 5 07:14:47 2005
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11842 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 6: Erasing Unwanted Objects from Images
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11866 One of the best uses for an image editing program is to erase
11867 things you wish weren't in the picture. Maybe you have a great
11868 photo of your sweetie except there's a telephone pole growing out of
11869 his head; maybe that outhouse in the background really takes away from
11870 your nice scenery photo. For whatever reason, learning to remove
11871 stuff from images is a fun and important gimpish skill.
11873 Removing objects undetectably can be very difficult. I'll touch
11874 on several techniques you can use for simple removals. For difficult
11875 projects involving complicated backgrounds, it will usually take a
11876 combination of several tools, plus lots of patience.
11878 Let's start with this hummingbird image:
11879 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-orig.jpg
11881 Isn't that branch annoying? The one going straight through her head?
11882 And that other branch that's blocking our view of her?
11883 Let's explore some techniques for removing them.
11887 An easy tool to start with is the Smudge tool. It looks like a hand
11888 with a pointing finger. Smudge does exactly what the name implies: it
11889 behaves as though you were smudging or smearing the image with your
11890 finger. Select it in the toolbox, and look at the tool options.
11892 Notice that the smudge tool has a Brush associated with it. The brush
11893 you choose makes a big difference. Most of the time, you'll probably
11894 want a fairly large brush, with a fuzzy edge, not a sharp edge.
11895 But for very small images, you may want to use a small brush, or
11896 even one with sharp edges. I'm going to choose "Circle Fuzzy (15)",
11897 the third-from-largest fuzzy circle.
11899 Now I'm going to try to smudge out that small branch under the bird's
11900 bill. The smudge tool will drag color from wherever I start, onto
11901 where I drag. So I'm going to drag from the bright area, onto the
11902 branch. Smudging only works over a short distance (the color "runs
11903 out" after a little while); so I have to smudge repeatedly, many
11904 times, to get rid of the branch. I go back and forth, sometimes
11905 dragging from below the branch upward, sometimes from above downward.
11907 Remember, you can always zoom in to get a better view of the part of
11908 the image where you're working. Hitting = or + a couple of times
11909 can help you see what you're doing.
11911 Digression: Zooming in is useful, but if you have a small image,
11912 sometimes it makes it hard to see how the image looks at its native
11913 size. Here's a nifty GIMP trick: multiple views of the same image!
11914 Choose the first item in the View menu, New View. This opens a new
11915 window showing the exact same image as the original window. Then you
11916 can make one big and one small; do your painting and smudging on the
11917 big window, and look at the small one to see the result of your work.
11919 Back to smudging: you're doing lots and lots of little motions, each
11920 one of which is an action as far as Undo is concerned. So you probably
11921 won't be able to Undo a whole smudging session, though you can always
11922 undo the last few bits of it. Be sure to save your work before you
11923 start smudging, and if you decide smudging wasn't the right thing, you
11924 can use "File->Revert" to go back to the image before you started.
11926 Here's what it looks like partway in:
11927 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-somesmudge.jpg
11929 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-smudged.jpg
11933 The Clone tool iss similar to smudge, but more powerful. Clone
11934 "remembers" a source region which you choose; then, as you paint in
11935 the image, instead of painting a fixed color, Clone will copy from
11936 that source image. The icon in the toolbox looks like a rubber stamp,
11937 and the tooltip says "Paint using Patterns or Image Regions".
11939 I'm going to go after that vertical branch that's blocking some of
11940 our view of the hummingbird. I can't use the smudge tool for that,
11941 because her breast and wing have feather patterns, and smudging
11942 will spoil that and will end up looking artificial. But if
11943 I can copy the feather patterns from her breast, I might be able to
11944 use them to paint over that branch. I'll use a slightly smaller brush
11945 than I used with the smudge tool, Circle Fuzzy (13), because I don't
11946 want to slop over and get white breast-feather pattern painted over
11947 the bird's wing or head.
11949 The clone tool has to be initialized before you can paint with it.
11950 At first, when the clone tool is selected, when you move your mouse
11951 into the image, the mouse cursor will show a circle-slash, meaning
11952 "You can't paint anything yet!" Select a source region with
11953 ctrl-click: move the mouse where you want your source region, hold
11954 down control, and click the left mouse button. Do this as close as
11955 possible to the piece you want to remove, so that the color and
11956 pattern will be right. But you can't get too close, or else, when you
11957 paint with the clone tool, part of the source pattern you're painting
11958 will be exactly the part you want to remove!
11960 Once you've ctrl-clicked, the mouse cursor should no longer show that
11961 circle-slash. You're ready to paint! Do so, in very small strokes,
11962 just like you did with the smudge tool earlier. You may find that
11963 you have to paint a small area, then select a new source image
11964 (ctrl-click again) because the color changes. For instance, my
11965 hummingbird is light colored where the sun is hitting her, but has a
11966 shadowed portion down near the branch she's sitting on. I'll need
11967 to paint those two areas separately, with different source regions.
11968 Here she is with the parts in front of her removed with the clone tool:
11969 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-clone.jpg
11971 COPYING SELECTED AREAS
11973 I could go on using Clone and Smudge to paint out the rest of the
11974 branch, but I have a shortcut for the next step: I'm going to select
11975 a region next to the branch that's the same shape as the branch, then
11976 paste it on top of the branch. If that doesn't make sense, bear with
11977 me while I follow the steps:
11979 First, I'll use a selection tool to select the part of the branch
11980 still above the bird. Regardless of which tool I use, I want the
11981 selection "feathered", which means that the edges of the selection
11982 will be fuzzy, not sharp. Sharp lines in selections tend to stand out
11983 when you paste them somewhere else. All of the selection tools have a
11984 "feather" option in the Tool Options dialog, where you can set how
11985 fuzzy you want the edges to be.
11987 I'm going to use the lasso ("free select") tool, which lets me
11988 hand-draw the outline of the branch. It's not critical that the
11989 outline exactly follow the branch; the important thing is that my
11990 selection is entirely outside the branch, and that it's in the right
11991 place in places where the branch touches the bird or the branch above
11992 it. Here's a screenshot of my selection:
11993 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-branchselect.jpg
11995 Now I have the branch (and a little padding around it) selected.
11996 But what I actually want is to copy something right next to the
11997 branch, not the branch itself. I can get that by moving the selection
11998 over by approximately the width of the branch.
12000 It would be nice if I could just click in the selection and drag it,
12001 but that moves the contents of the selection, leaving a blank white
12002 area behind it. (Try it! It's undoable.)
12004 In gimp, alt-drag moves a selection. That sounds straightforward --
12005 except that in most Linux window managers, alt-drag is already claimed
12006 as "move window". So when you alt-drag the selection, most likely,
12007 the whole gimp image window moves. Not what you want!
12008 (Try it. If it moves the selection, then be happy! and ignore
12009 the next paragraph.)
12011 There are two ways around this. First, you can configure your window
12012 manager not to use alt-drag to move windows. This is supposedly the
12013 recommended approach, but I don't recommend it; it means you'll have
12014 to do this on every window manager you ever use, and if you ever try
12015 to show a friend how to do something, it won't work for them.
12016 Fortunately, there's another way: alt-shift-drag also moves the
12017 selection. Here's where I've moved the selection:
12018 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-selectmoved.jpg
12020 Now I Copy, then Paste, as in Lesson 4. The pasted piece shows up as
12021 a new layer in the layers dialog, and I can Move it using the move
12022 tool (while it's a floating selection, I can also move it just by
12023 dragging it). It's a bit hard to see the how well the edges match
12024 while I'm doing this, so I temporarily turn the marching ants off with
12025 View->Show Selection, or ctrl-T. (Don't forget to turn them back on
12028 When I'm happy with the placement of the new layer, I need to merge it
12029 with the base layer. Why? Because I have some extra cruft at the
12030 edge of the pasted layer, plus some extra stuff next to the
12031 hummingbird's head, which I'll need to clean up with Clone or Smudge.
12032 Tools only work on one layer at a time, and I'm going to want to be
12033 able to smudge or clone right across the boundary of the layer I just
12036 To merge the selection layer into the background layer, I go
12037 to the Layers dialog, and instead of clicking the New Layer button
12038 as we've done in past lessons, I click the Anchor button.
12039 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-pasted.jpg
12041 Now I Smudge to clean up the area above the hummer's head. I'll also
12042 use the Clone tool to get rid of the bottom part of the branch.
12044 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-final.jpg
12046 I'm done! No more annoying branches in the way.
12048 Homework: Erase something out of an image, using whatever tools seem
12051 Next Lesson: Advanced selection, with paths; and enhancing just the
12052 selected part of an image.
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12104 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson6.jpg
12105 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson6a.jpg
12106 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/lesson6a.xcf
12108 I thought the plastic wading pool and the miniature windmill detracted from
12109 the sunflowers. This is simply amazing. :)
12111 I also removed the guy wires and a big weed from my rose bushes.
12112 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/roses2.jpg
12113 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/roses2a.jpg
12115 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/roses3.jpg
12116 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/roses3a.jpg
12121 On Friday 04 March 2005 03:14 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
12122 > One of the best uses for an image editing program is to erase
12123 > things you wish weren't in the picture. Maybe you have a great
12124 > photo of your sweetie except there's a telephone pole growing out of
12125 > his head; maybe that outhouse in the background really takes away from
12126 > your nice scenery photo. For whatever reason, learning to remove
12127 > stuff from images is a fun and important gimpish skill.
12129 > Removing objects undetectably can be very difficult. I'll touch
12130 > on several techniques you can use for simple removals. For difficult
12131 > projects involving complicated backgrounds, it will usually take a
12132 > combination of several tools, plus lots of patience.
12134 > Let's start with this hummingbird image:
12135 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-orig.jpg
12137 > Isn't that branch annoying? The one going straight through her head?
12138 > And that other branch that's blocking our view of her?
12139 > Let's explore some techniques for removing them.
12143 > An easy tool to start with is the Smudge tool. It looks like a hand
12144 > with a pointing finger. Smudge does exactly what the name implies: it
12145 > behaves as though you were smudging or smearing the image with your
12146 > finger. Select it in the toolbox, and look at the tool options.
12148 > Notice that the smudge tool has a Brush associated with it. The brush
12149 > you choose makes a big difference. Most of the time, you'll probably
12150 > want a fairly large brush, with a fuzzy edge, not a sharp edge.
12151 > But for very small images, you may want to use a small brush, or
12152 > even one with sharp edges. I'm going to choose "Circle Fuzzy (15)",
12153 > the third-from-largest fuzzy circle.
12155 > Now I'm going to try to smudge out that small branch under the bird's
12156 > bill. The smudge tool will drag color from wherever I start, onto
12157 > where I drag. So I'm going to drag from the bright area, onto the
12158 > branch. Smudging only works over a short distance (the color "runs
12159 > out" after a little while); so I have to smudge repeatedly, many
12160 > times, to get rid of the branch. I go back and forth, sometimes
12161 > dragging from below the branch upward, sometimes from above downward.
12163 > Remember, you can always zoom in to get a better view of the part of
12164 > the image where you're working. Hitting = or + a couple of times
12165 > can help you see what you're doing.
12167 > Digression: Zooming in is useful, but if you have a small image,
12168 > sometimes it makes it hard to see how the image looks at its native
12169 > size. Here's a nifty GIMP trick: multiple views of the same image!
12170 > Choose the first item in the View menu, New View. This opens a new
12171 > window showing the exact same image as the original window. Then you
12172 > can make one big and one small; do your painting and smudging on the
12173 > big window, and look at the small one to see the result of your work.
12175 > Back to smudging: you're doing lots and lots of little motions, each
12176 > one of which is an action as far as Undo is concerned. So you probably
12177 > won't be able to Undo a whole smudging session, though you can always
12178 > undo the last few bits of it. Be sure to save your work before you
12179 > start smudging, and if you decide smudging wasn't the right thing, you
12180 > can use "File->Revert" to go back to the image before you started.
12182 > Here's what it looks like partway in:
12183 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-somesmudge.jpg
12185 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-smudged.jpg
12189 > The Clone tool iss similar to smudge, but more powerful. Clone
12190 > "remembers" a source region which you choose; then, as you paint in
12191 > the image, instead of painting a fixed color, Clone will copy from
12192 > that source image. The icon in the toolbox looks like a rubber stamp,
12193 > and the tooltip says "Paint using Patterns or Image Regions".
12195 > I'm going to go after that vertical branch that's blocking some of
12196 > our view of the hummingbird. I can't use the smudge tool for that,
12197 > because her breast and wing have feather patterns, and smudging
12198 > will spoil that and will end up looking artificial. But if
12199 > I can copy the feather patterns from her breast, I might be able to
12200 > use them to paint over that branch. I'll use a slightly smaller brush
12201 > than I used with the smudge tool, Circle Fuzzy (13), because I don't
12202 > want to slop over and get white breast-feather pattern painted over
12203 > the bird's wing or head.
12205 > The clone tool has to be initialized before you can paint with it.
12206 > At first, when the clone tool is selected, when you move your mouse
12207 > into the image, the mouse cursor will show a circle-slash, meaning
12208 > "You can't paint anything yet!" Select a source region with
12209 > ctrl-click: move the mouse where you want your source region, hold
12210 > down control, and click the left mouse button. Do this as close as
12211 > possible to the piece you want to remove, so that the color and
12212 > pattern will be right. But you can't get too close, or else, when you
12213 > paint with the clone tool, part of the source pattern you're painting
12214 > will be exactly the part you want to remove!
12216 > Once you've ctrl-clicked, the mouse cursor should no longer show that
12217 > circle-slash. You're ready to paint! Do so, in very small strokes,
12218 > just like you did with the smudge tool earlier. You may find that
12219 > you have to paint a small area, then select a new source image
12220 > (ctrl-click again) because the color changes. For instance, my
12221 > hummingbird is light colored where the sun is hitting her, but has a
12222 > shadowed portion down near the branch she's sitting on. I'll need
12223 > to paint those two areas separately, with different source regions.
12224 > Here she is with the parts in front of her removed with the clone tool:
12225 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-clone.jpg
12227 > COPYING SELECTED AREAS
12229 > I could go on using Clone and Smudge to paint out the rest of the
12230 > branch, but I have a shortcut for the next step: I'm going to select
12231 > a region next to the branch that's the same shape as the branch, then
12232 > paste it on top of the branch. If that doesn't make sense, bear with
12233 > me while I follow the steps:
12235 > First, I'll use a selection tool to select the part of the branch
12236 > still above the bird. Regardless of which tool I use, I want the
12237 > selection "feathered", which means that the edges of the selection
12238 > will be fuzzy, not sharp. Sharp lines in selections tend to stand out
12239 > when you paste them somewhere else. All of the selection tools have a
12240 > "feather" option in the Tool Options dialog, where you can set how
12241 > fuzzy you want the edges to be.
12243 > I'm going to use the lasso ("free select") tool, which lets me
12244 > hand-draw the outline of the branch. It's not critical that the
12245 > outline exactly follow the branch; the important thing is that my
12246 > selection is entirely outside the branch, and that it's in the right
12247 > place in places where the branch touches the bird or the branch above
12248 > it. Here's a screenshot of my selection:
12249 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-branchselect.jpg
12251 > Now I have the branch (and a little padding around it) selected.
12252 > But what I actually want is to copy something right next to the
12253 > branch, not the branch itself. I can get that by moving the selection
12254 > over by approximately the width of the branch.
12256 > It would be nice if I could just click in the selection and drag it,
12257 > but that moves the contents of the selection, leaving a blank white
12258 > area behind it. (Try it! It's undoable.)
12260 > In gimp, alt-drag moves a selection. That sounds straightforward --
12261 > except that in most Linux window managers, alt-drag is already claimed
12262 > as "move window". So when you alt-drag the selection, most likely,
12263 > the whole gimp image window moves. Not what you want!
12264 > (Try it. If it moves the selection, then be happy! and ignore
12265 > the next paragraph.)
12267 > There are two ways around this. First, you can configure your window
12268 > manager not to use alt-drag to move windows. This is supposedly the
12269 > recommended approach, but I don't recommend it; it means you'll have
12270 > to do this on every window manager you ever use, and if you ever try
12271 > to show a friend how to do something, it won't work for them.
12272 > Fortunately, there's another way: alt-shift-drag also moves the
12273 > selection. Here's where I've moved the selection:
12274 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-selectmoved.jpg
12276 > Now I Copy, then Paste, as in Lesson 4. The pasted piece shows up as
12277 > a new layer in the layers dialog, and I can Move it using the move
12278 > tool (while it's a floating selection, I can also move it just by
12279 > dragging it). It's a bit hard to see the how well the edges match
12280 > while I'm doing this, so I temporarily turn the marching ants off with
12281 > View->Show Selection, or ctrl-T. (Don't forget to turn them back on
12282 > again afterward.)
12284 > When I'm happy with the placement of the new layer, I need to merge it
12285 > with the base layer. Why? Because I have some extra cruft at the
12286 > edge of the pasted layer, plus some extra stuff next to the
12287 > hummingbird's head, which I'll need to clean up with Clone or Smudge.
12288 > Tools only work on one layer at a time, and I'm going to want to be
12289 > able to smudge or clone right across the boundary of the layer I just
12292 > To merge the selection layer into the background layer, I go
12293 > to the Layers dialog, and instead of clicking the New Layer button
12294 > as we've done in past lessons, I click the Anchor button.
12295 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-pasted.jpg
12297 > Now I Smudge to clean up the area above the hummer's head. I'll also
12298 > use the Clone tool to get rid of the bottom part of the branch.
12299 > Here's the result!
12300 > http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson6/hummer-final.jpg
12302 > I'm done! No more annoying branches in the way.
12304 > Homework: Erase something out of an image, using whatever tools seem
12305 > most appropriate.
12307 > Next Lesson: Advanced selection, with paths; and enhancing just the
12308 > selected part of an image.
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12367 Gosh, it's still Friday, and I have my homework done. Amazing! This is
12368 fun, and will be very, very useful, as I'm only just learning to use the
12371 Here's the original photo:
12373 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/crCloudsS.jpg
12375 I got rid of those pesky buildings in the fg by smudging and copying
12376 some areas of darkness to cover the buildings. Then there was that
12377 little area of green at the right, and it looked like an afterthought,
12378 so I moved some of the road from the other side over there. It still
12379 didn't look right, so I went back to Lesson 5 and drew a little road
12380 extension where it didn't work.
12382 Here's the final product:
12384 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson6Road.jpg
12389 From kproot@nerim.net Sat Mar 5 19:53:26 2005
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12437 It took me time to find a suitable picture for that exercise, as I don't have many photos, but I bet my sister will find that useful :)
12439 Here is the translated article with my homework :
12441 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=20
12443 I thought snow was pretty homogeneous and that Fudge would do it ok, but in fact it's very detailed and Clone worked out really nicer. Yay !
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12512 Oops, I accidently sent my original reply to akk instead of the list.
12514 I'm a little late with homework but I have my lesson #6 at
12516 http://womensfooty.com/gimpclass
12518 The image I started with was small, lo-res, and crappy but it sure cleane=
12520 up nice espcially with clone.
12522 I have another picture that plan to play around with also.
12526 http://womensfooty.com
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12587 Now that everyone has amped up their Gimp-fu, here's a howto that might be
12590 Building Attractive Web Photo Galleries
12591 http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5681/1/
12594 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
12596 http://www.tuxcomputing.com
12597 check out my new book, the "Linux Cookbook", the ultimate Linux user's
12598 and sysadmin's guide! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/
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12654 On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:49:23 -0800, Carla Schroder <carla@bratgrrl.com> wrote:
12655 > Now that everyone has amped up their Gimp-fu, here's a howto that might be
12658 > Building Attractive Web Photo Galleries
12659 > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5681/1/
12662 Wow, that's a great article - I _really_ wish I'd seen it a couple of
12663 weeks ago when I decided to start making up my first albums for a new
12664 web server we just recently built for fun.
12666 I'd like to add one tiny little thing: for anyone who's super lazy
12667 like me and wants to create their album with one simple command, try
12668 out MkGallery from http://mkgallery.sourceforge.net/
12669 It's a wrapper around ImageMagick that does all of the dirty work for
12670 you, so you can create your entire gallery using a single command.
12671 It's not the fanciest program in the world and there's not that much
12672 customization that you can do, but it did reduce the task of creating
12673 a complete image gallery to a single command for me, and I liked that
12675 One note: the image files need to end in .jpg and not .JPG, it's case sensitive.
12677 Here's mine as an example of what it can do:
12678 http://www.geekontheloose.com/ppics/pics/slough/slough01.html
12680 In Gentoo, I was able to emerge the mkgallery package and get all of
12681 the dependencies (like ImageMagick) all in one swoop, probably Debian
12682 and others make that easy, too.
12686 From carol@gimp.org Thu Mar 24 09:07:23 2005
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12732 On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 07:49:23PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote:
12733 > Now that everyone has amped up their Gimp-fu, here's a howto that might be
12736 > Building Attractive Web Photo Galleries
12737 > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5681/1/
12739 this is an excellent tutorial and probably the very best way to get from
12740 a stack of images to a bunch of web pages. i have been learning how to
12741 script web pages with gimp for several years now and the biggest message
12742 i have to share is to "do as i say and not as i do" (borrowed from my
12743 drivers ed teacher).
12745 that said, i have a simple gallery script, written in python and ready
12746 to go i would like to share here. it will make simple gallery html for
12747 a directory filled with xcfs, you need only to show it your images and
12748 show it where to put the gallery. the script might be a good starting
12749 point for someone to learn scripting with and i tried to note some of
12750 the places the script can be improved at.
12752 http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/web/python/gallery-simple.html
12754 there are some broken urls on this page, it is still under
12760 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sat Mar 12 14:50:52 2005
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12780 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 7: Selecting Complex Shapes
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12804 In Lesson 4, we used some simple basic tools to select part of an
12805 image. In this lesson, I'll cover selection of complex shapes.
12806 I'll use a butterfly as my sample:
12807 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly.jpg
12811 When selecting images out of an image, there are two important tricks:
12812 (1) Zoom the image as much as you can, so you can see what you're
12813 doing, and (2) Turn on "feathering".
12815 You may remember zooming from Lesson 1: it changes the size at
12816 which the image is displayed. Use the View->Zoom menu, or (in gimp
12817 2.2) the menu at the bottom of the image window; or just hit ctrl-= or
12818 ctrl-+ repeatedly until the image is as big as you need it to be.
12820 Feathering means making the edges of the selection "fuzzy".
12821 The edge will only be partially selected, so if you paste such
12822 a selection, the edges will merge with the background below it.
12823 This is important when you're cutting shapes out of an image,
12824 because it helps you avoid sharp edges that make it obvious
12825 that the image has been changed. Most selection tools have
12826 Feathering as an option in their Tool options.
12830 We touched briefly on the Lasso selection tool in the last lesson.
12831 With it, you can draw an outline around an object in order to select
12832 that object. But as a few of you found out when you tried to use it
12833 to cut out specific objects, it's tricky to use: you have to hold the
12834 mouse down and drag out the whole shape in one complex motion.
12838 That's where Bezier Paths come in! The Bezier (pronounced
12839 "bez-ee-ay") Path tool looks sort of like a fountain pen drawing a
12840 thread through a wire with lumps on it. :-) The tooltip says "Create
12841 and Edit Paths" or "Select Regions with Bezier curves". Don't get it
12842 confused with the "magic scissors" tool right next to it, which is
12843 somewhat similar (I'll talk about that in a minute).
12845 The Paths tool lets you define a selection of any shape, like the
12846 Lasso, but with Paths, you can go step by step, stop to take a rest,
12847 and edit the path later.
12849 One thing that means is that you can zoom waaaay in on the image.
12850 Make it huge, like 300 or 400% of actual size. It's okay if you need
12851 scrollbars. The important thing is that it's big enough that you can
12852 click exactly where you need to, and not have to worry about whether
12853 your hand is accurate enough with the mouse.
12855 Time to start! Click-and-release the mouse button wherever you want
12856 to start your selection. Then click a little farther down the line.
12857 Continue around the image, playing "connect the dots" all the way
12858 around. Make the dots as close together or as far apart as you need to
12859 to follow the object's contour. If you need to scroll, go ahead and
12860 do so. The mousewheel works for scrolling vertically, if you don't
12861 want to break your concentration by moving over to the scrollbar.
12863 What if you click in the wrong place?
12865 You can edit bezier points at any time. In gimp 2 this is easy:
12866 go back and mouse over the errant point (watch the mouse cursor
12867 carefully, and make sure it switches to the crossed-arrow icon that
12868 means "move" in gimp), then move it. "Undo" also works in gimp 2
12869 to remove the last point, in case you clicked in the wrong place.
12871 In gimp 1, ctrl-click seems to move the current point. (If you hold
12872 down Alt you'll see the cursor change to a "move" icon, but that
12873 moves the whole path, not just one point.)
12875 When you finally get all the way around your object and back to the
12876 first point, click on the first point again to "close" the path.
12878 Look over your path. You have a nice connect-the-dots of straight
12879 lines framing your image. If you made the dots close enough together,
12880 this is probably good enough. But if you want to make the line follow
12881 your object's outlines even more closely, you can make the lines
12882 curve! In gimp 2, click on Edit Mode: Edit in the tool options.
12883 (Gimp 1 is always in this mode.) Now, if you click on one of your
12884 dots and drag away a little bit, "handles" will sprout from that
12885 point, and by dragging the handles around, you can make the lines
12886 adjacent to that point curve rather than being straight. Try it --
12887 it's easier to see than it is to explain.
12889 In truth, I don't use the bezier handles very often. It's usually
12890 easier to make a lot of points connected by straight lines. But it's
12891 worthwhile knowing that the handles are there if you ever need them.
12893 Now you have a path, and you've adjusted your points' positions and
12894 handles as much as you're doing to. You've probably spent quite a lot
12895 of time on this: making a good path is hard work, and takes a lot of
12896 concentration. So at this point, I often make a backup copy of the
12897 path. Go to the Layers dialog and select Paths from the tabs at the
12898 top. You'll see the path you just created there. Select "Duplicate
12899 Path", either by right-clicking on the path's line in the Paths
12900 dialog, or by clicking on the Duplicate button down at the bottom of
12901 the dialog. You might also want to name the path, by double-clicking
12902 on the path, which selects the name and lets you type in a new name.
12904 At this point, I recommend saving as XCF, if you haven't already done
12905 so. This will save the path and the selection, so you won't lose it.
12907 Now turn the path into a selection: "Path to Selection", either from
12908 the button at the bottom of the dialog, the right-click menu on the
12909 path, or (in gimp 2) "Create selection from path" in tool options,
12910 back in the toolbox window.
12912 My selection looks like this:
12913 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly-selected.jpg
12915 FEATHERING A PATH-BASED SELECTION
12917 Voila! You have a beautiful selection. But what about feathering?
12919 Gimp 1.2 has a Feathering checkbox in the Bezier Selection Tool
12920 Options dialog, like most selection tools. But that option is gone
12921 from Gimp 2! In gimp 2, you'll have to use the menus after your
12922 selection is made: Select->Feather...
12923 You can use that on any selection: sometimes it's useful if you've
12924 made a rectangular or lasso selection and decide later that it needs
12925 the edges feathered.
12927 INTELLIGENT SCISSORS
12929 GIMP has a second path tool: the so-called "intelligent scissors", the
12930 scissors icon right next to the path tool (with the tooltip "Select
12931 Shapes from Image"). The Scissors tool creates a path, just like the
12932 regular path tool; but each time you click to create a new point, it
12933 tries to guess where you really wanted it, and warp it there,
12934 following whatever it can find that looks like an outline or sharp
12935 boundary. Some people like it; others don't. Try it and see if it
12936 works for you. But most people end up using the regular path tool
12937 instead of the scissors.
12939 RUNNING FILTERS ON SELECTIONS
12941 You've made your selection. What can you do with it?
12943 Of course, you can copy, then paste into another image:
12944 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly-on-white.jpg
12946 But in addition, most gimp operations will operate only on the
12947 selection, if a selection exists. For example, in this image, the
12948 background is a bit busy. All the leaves detract a little from the
12949 butterfly. If I make them darker compared to the butterfly, the
12950 butterfly itself will stand out better.
12952 INVERTING THE SELECTION
12954 Since I want to darken the background, not brighten the butterfly,
12955 what I really want is a selection that includes everything *except*
12956 the butterfly: the exact opposite of the selection I have now.
12957 That's easy: from the menus, Select->Invert.
12959 Now I bring up my any brightness tool from Lesson 2 (I'll use Curves)
12960 and fiddle with the controls, and watch the background change.
12962 HIDING THE SELECTION BOUNDARY
12964 The only problem is that I can't see whether the boundary looks too
12965 obvious, because now those darned "marching ants" are getting in the way.
12967 But I can make the marching ants disappear temporarily:
12968 View->Show Selection, or ctrl-T ("toggle selection").
12970 WARNING: toggling selection visibility off is somewhat dangerous,
12971 because the next time you use selection, you'll try to make a
12972 selection and no marching ants will appear and you'll get all
12973 confused. Or you'll try to draw something, and it will only draw
12974 in part of the image (where the selection is). Or at least, I get
12975 confused by that. So try to remember to toggle selection
12976 back on immediately after you're finished working on a selection.
12978 With the marching ants gone, I can see what I'm doing, and I turn the
12979 background's brightness down to enhance the butterfly, which reamains bright:
12980 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly-darkbg.jpg
12982 You can use this technique with most gimp filters: you can sharpen
12983 an object while leaving the background unchanged, or even blur the
12988 You may have noticed all those blur options in gimp's menus, and
12989 wondered, "Why would anyone want to make a picture more blurry
12990 than it already is?"
12992 Blurring is actually surprisingly useful. For instance, those drop
12993 shadows we've been using so much are made by making a copy of your
12994 text, changing the color to black, then blurring the result.
12996 Blurring can also be useful to de-emphasize parts of an image that
12997 are distracting. In this case, I'll blur the leaves, which will
12998 make the butterfly look sharper in comparison.
13000 Blur is a submenu, Filters->Blur, and there are lots of types.
13001 I usually use Gaussian Blur, and in gimp 1.2, where there are two
13002 types of Gaussian Blur, just pick one -- they're very similar.
13003 But do experiment with some of the others, like Motion Blur --
13004 they can be fun when you want special effects.
13006 Experiment with blur radius. Gimp 2 has a preview in the blur dialog,
13007 so you can see exactly what the effect will be. With gimp 1, just try
13008 something, and undo if you decide you want more or less blur.
13010 Here's my butterfly with a blur radius of 20 (looks unrealistic):
13011 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly-blur.jpg
13012 and with a blur radius of 7 (more subtle and, IMO, better):
13013 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson7/butterfly-lessblur.jpg
13015 Homework: Select a complex shape from an image, using path or
13016 intelligent scissors, and apply any gimp filter (or combination of
13017 filters) to either the shape or its background. Or, if you prefer,
13018 just paste the shape into another image.
13020 Next lesson: How to get really cool looking text.
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13069 Great ! I had used the Path tool for small tasks already, but this lesson was really nice. At one point I was about to get mad because I had lost my path whil doing some screenshots, but I read further in the lesson and read about the path layer, and I found it hidden there... phew :)
13071 Here is my homework, along with the french translation :
13072 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=21
13074 I spent a lot of time with various color tools to get rid of the blue color on the edges, without much success - I'll have to look back at the lesson that was talking about this !
13078 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Mon Mar 14 09:48:38 2005
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13100 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 7: Selecting Complex Shapes
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13128 On Friday 11 March 2005 10:50 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
13129 > In Lesson 4, we used some simple basic tools to select part of an
13130 > image. In this lesson, I'll cover selection of complex shapes.
13134 > When selecting images out of an image, there are two important tricks:
13135 > (1) Zoom the image as much as you can, so you can see what you're
13136 > doing, and (2) Turn on "feathering".
13138 Zoom is my friend. In gimp1.2.5 I use the [+ - 1] keys and do not need
13139 CTRL with them. I also think [view > new view] is indispensable when
13140 editing a zoomed image.
13142 > That's where Bezier Paths come in! The Bezier (pronounced
13145 I think of it as "BEE zjer." I will try to fix this mindset :)
13147 > Time to start! Click-and-release the mouse button wherever you want
13148 > to start your selection.
13150 I began with a sunflower:
13151 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower.jpg
13153 Here is a screenshot of my initial selection:
13154 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/snapshot1.jpg
13156 > What if you click in the wrong place?
13158 > In gimp 1, ctrl-click seems to move the current point.
13160 This takes some practice.
13161 As does making additional paths after the first one; It took me a while to
13162 figure out had to click "new path" in the paths dialogue BEFORE I start
13165 > Gimp 1.2 has a Feathering checkbox in the Bezier Selection Tool
13166 > Options dialog, like most selection tools.
13168 FWIW I turned on feathering in Bezier select, but when I closed the gimp
13169 and reopened it, it had reverted to the non-feathering default.
13171 > You've made your selection. What can you do with it?
13173 > Of course, you can copy, then paste into another image
13176 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite.jpg
13178 but then I noticed I needed to take more background out, among the leaves :(
13180 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite2.jpg
13182 but this doesn't help if I want to blur or otherwise enhance (dehance?) the
13183 background, so I went back to my xcf and made more BEEzjer - I mean
13184 bez-ee-YAY selections
13185 and once I decided how I was going to change the bg made a note of the
13186 values and applied them to each selection, one at a time:
13188 using colors > curves to lighten and darken, and gaussian blur RLE:
13190 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-light.jpg
13191 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-dark.jpg
13192 http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-blur.jpg
13194 [filters >noise > hurl] makes an interesting effect too :)
13196 I ended up with a favorite, /weird.jpg, which would have looked better with
13197 a fine edge selected instead of feathered, but still think it's cool.
13202 > Homework: Select a complex shape from an image, using path or
13203 > intelligent scissors, and apply any gimp filter (or combination of
13204 > filters) to either the shape or its background. Or, if you prefer,
13205 > just paste the shape into another image.
13207 > Next lesson: How to get really cool looking text.
13208 > _______________________________________________
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13233 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 7: Selecting Complex Shapes
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13259 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:48:58 -0500
13260 Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com> wrote:
13262 > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite.jpg
13264 > but then I noticed I needed to take more background out, among the leaves :(
13266 > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite2.jpg
13268 these are on-white and on-white2, if someone else searches for them :)
13270 > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-light.jpg
13271 > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-dark.jpg
13272 > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/sunflower-blur.jpg
13274 I like dark and blur! This is amazing how "degrading" an image makes it better, I would never have thought about that.
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13331 > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:48:58 -0500
13333 > Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com> wrote:
13334 > > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite.jpg
13335 > > http://juliesloan.home.mindspring.com/gimp/onwhite2.jpg
13337 > these are on-white and on-white2, if someone else searches for them :)
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13394 A bit of a struggle for me this time, but I've done my homework and it
13395 turned out okay, I think. I had some problems with the "marching ants"
13396 around my outline. At first, I got some kind of extra triangle within
13397 the image, I have no idea why. Feathering moved it around to where it
13398 was hardly noticeable, but it wouldn't disappear completely.
13400 Also, as long as I was looking at where those darned ants were marching
13401 in relation to my selection, it didn't look right at all. But when all
13402 the guides were turned off, it looked okay, so maybe it was just the
13403 Gimp not being as precise in its indicators as it might be, I dunno.
13404 OTOH, maybe I did something stupid. Wouldn't be the first time.
13406 Here's my homework starting with the original image of a camellia in my
13410 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/crwhite1S.jpg
13413 I selected the flower, sharpened it a little, feathered it, then
13414 inverted to the background and darkened that slightly to increase the
13415 contrast and make the dead leaves less obvious. Here's the result:
13418 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson7.jpg
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13471 I've been doing the course, thank you Akkana, for a great course, but
13472 haven't contributed so far because I didn't have a web site that I
13473 could post photos on. I've now set up a yahoo photo site. The first
13474 photo was from the first class, crop and scale. The second photo has
13475 had the cockatoo selected, the background cloned from the trees and
13476 then blurred, a fun lesson !!
13478 http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cabucholtz/detail?.dir=3D/da37&.dnm=3Dfc=
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13484 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
13485 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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13507 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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13532 Up to now, we've created text using the text tool.
13533 But GIMP can create much more interesting text than that.
13537 Let's start by exploring some of the pre-defined text styles GIMP
13538 offers. Start GIMP, and in the Toolbox window, look at the menu:
13539 Xtns->Script-Fu->Logos. For purposes of this lesson, You'll probably
13540 want to use the tear-off (the dotted line at the top of the menu) to
13541 make this menu stand on its own, while you explore some of what it offers.
13543 Depending on your gimp version, you'll probably see about 30
13544 different logo scripts. Any one of these will bring up a dialog
13545 allowing you to set your text and choose options such as font face,
13546 size, color, and perhaps various options specific to that particular
13547 text style. Selecting OK will create a new image containing the
13550 Unfortunately, there's no preview. So your best bet is to browse
13551 through the list, trying anything that looks like it might be useful.
13553 There are lots of logo styles, and most of them have quite a few
13554 options, so this will probably keep you busy for a while. It's a
13555 lot of fun seeing what's available. Unfortunately, I don't know of
13556 anywhere where all the available logos are shown together on one page,
13557 so you can quickly decide which logo script is the one you want for
13558 any particular project. If you decide to make one, please share it!
13562 These logo images are fun to look at, but how would you paste one
13563 into an image, like a poster or greeting card?
13565 Choose a logo you like, and look at the Layers dialog. (If you still
13566 have it set to the Paths tab after last week's lesson, go back to
13567 Layers now.) Notice that the scripts preserve all the layers they
13568 used to make the effect. (I'll talk in a moment about how some of
13569 these layer tricks work.)
13571 The first thing to notice is the first (bottom) layer, which is
13572 usually a solid background color, usually white. If you're making a
13573 logo that you want to paste into another image, you probably want a
13574 transparent background (unless the background is an important part of
13575 the image, such as the "Carved" script). So click on the eyeball icon
13576 in the layers dialog next to the background layer, to make that layer
13577 invisible. Now you'll see the grey checkerboard pattern that gimp
13578 uses to indicate "transparent".
13580 Now you need to copy the remaining image. But Copy only copies one
13581 layer at a time. You could select a layer, copy it, paste it, select
13582 the next layer, copy it, and so forth; but it would be tedious,
13583 and you might have trouble getting all the layers lined up.
13585 Instead, use Edit->Copy Visible to copy all the visible layers at
13586 once. Now you can Paste into another image. The logo now pastes
13587 as a single new layer, which you can move around your image at will.
13589 Did the logo paste at a size that surprised you? Depending on the
13590 size of your image, sometimes when you paste, the logo comes out
13591 looking teeny even though it looked big when you copied it. That's
13592 because of zooming: if the destination photo is zoomed in or out
13593 (perhaps displaying at 1/2 or 1/3 its real size), but the logo is
13594 displayed at full size, then what you get when you paste may not be
13595 what you expect. If this happens, go back and make another logo at
13596 a different font size. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get the
13597 font size to where it fits just perfectly.
13599 LOGO-IZING EXISTING TEXT
13601 All the Logo scripts we used from the toolbox create a brand new
13602 image, using text you've provided. Usually that's what you want. But
13603 occasionally you may find that you already have the text, perhaps
13604 because you scanned it, or because you want to use text or some other
13605 shape that you drew yourself with the mouse. Nearly all the logo
13606 scripts from the toolbox are also available as filters, in the submenu:
13607 Script-Fu->Alpha to Logo.
13609 Run "Alpha to Logo scripts on an image which contains your text, and
13610 only your text. Anything else, like a photographic background, will
13611 be destroyed during the logo-making process. So if you already have
13612 text on a background, select it (if it's all one color, Select by
13613 Color is probably the easiest way) and Edit->Paste as New to make a
13614 new image. Once you're done making your logo, you can paste it back
13615 into the other image later.
13617 MAKING DROP SHADOWS
13619 In later lessons, we'll explore some of the techniques used in some
13620 of these logo effects. But for now, let's start with the simplest:
13621 how to make a drop shadow.
13623 You already know you can make a drop shadow using the Script-Fu menu.
13624 But how are they made? The technique behind making drop shadows is
13625 very straightforward, and understanding it is the first step in
13626 creating more advanced effects.
13628 First, start with any image that has a layer of text, in any color
13629 besides black (since the shadow will be black).
13630 I'll use File->New... to create a blank image with a white
13631 background, then I'll use the text tool to put some text on it:
13632 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text.jpg
13634 Now make a copy of the text layer: go to the Layers dialog,
13635 right-click on the text layer, and choose "Duplicate Layer".
13636 Your new layer will become the drop shadow, so I recommend renaming
13637 it to something that will remind you that it's the shadow, by
13638 doubleclicking on the layer and editing the name. Since my primary
13639 layer is called GimP, I called my shadow layer "GimP shadow".
13641 The shadow layer should still be the selected layer. If you've
13642 selected anything else, then click on the shadow layer to make sure
13645 Now make all the letters in the shadow layer black. The fastest way
13646 to do that is to make sure black is selected as the foreground color
13647 in the toolbox, select the Bucket Fill tool, check "FG Color Fill" and
13648 "Fill Whole Selection" in the tool options, turn on "Keep
13649 Transparency", then click on a letter.
13651 DIGRESSION: KEEP TRANSPARENCY
13653 Keep Transparency lets you color on the layer without drawing outside
13654 the lines, so to speak. The easiest way to see what it can do is to
13655 toggle it on for the layer you're looking at, choose a different
13656 foreground color, choose a drawing tool such as the Pencil, then
13657 scribble over the layer. Notice that gimp only draws where there's
13658 already something in the image; it doesn't draw over the transparent
13659 parts. For partially transparent areas, it draws on them but keeps
13660 them partially transparent.
13662 In Gimp 1, Keep Transparency is clearly labelled in the Layers dialog;
13663 but in Gimp 2, it's a tiny checkbox to the right of the Mode dropdown
13664 (we'll talk about Mode in a later lesson) with a little checkerboard
13665 icon next to it. To see the words "Keep Transparency" you have to
13666 hover the mouse over the checkbox and wait for the tooltip to pop up.
13668 Keep Transparency is useful, but it's also sometimes a problem,
13669 because it has a bad habit of getting flipped on when you don't want
13670 it. Then, when you try to draw on an image, nothing draws, and it's
13671 not obvious why. When that happens to me, "Keep Transparency" on the
13672 currently selected layer is one of the first things I check.
13674 DROP SHADOWS, continued
13676 Now you have a black text layer, which is temporarily hiding the
13677 colored text layer underneath. Don't worry, your colored text is
13678 still there (if you want to verify that, click off the layer
13679 visibility for the shadow layer, to see the colored layer below.
13680 Then turn visibility back on for the shadow.)
13681 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-sharpshadow.jpg
13683 We're going to blur the shadow layer, so that means we need Keep
13684 Transparency off. Why? Because the shadow becomes bigger when you
13685 blur it; but gimp won't be able to draw any of the new parts with Keep
13686 Transparency on, because it would have to draw over formerly
13687 transparent areas. So make sure the Keep Trans box is unchecked.
13689 Now do the blur: Filters->Blur->Gaussian Blur (either variety). How
13690 much blur you want depends on how sharp you want the shadow to look.
13691 Less blur will make it look like your text is floating just barely
13692 above the page; more blur will make it look like it's floating higher.
13693 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-blur.jpg
13695 Now offset the shadow: switch to the Move tool in the toolbox (the one
13696 with two crossed arrows), and drag the shadow diagonally a little. I
13697 usually drag down and to the right, but it depends on where you want
13698 the light to appear to be coming from. If this is on an image that
13699 already has shadows, you might want the text shadow to go in the same
13702 Drag just a little, so you can see a small bit of your original
13703 colored text peeking out from behind the shadow, like this:
13704 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-bluroffset.jpg
13706 Finally, it's time to move the shadow layer below the text layer.
13707 Go to the Layers dialog, where the shadow layer should still be
13708 selected, and click the downarrow button to move that layer down
13711 Voila! A drop shadow. You can continue to fiddle with the spacing
13712 between the text layer and the shadow layer, using the Move tool to
13713 click on the shadow area and move that layer around underneath the
13714 text layer. With the Move tool, if "Pick a layer" is selected in tool
13715 options, you have to be careful to click on the shadow and not on the
13716 text above it; or (in gimp 2) choose "Move the current layer" in tool
13717 options, in which case it will always move whatever layer you have
13718 selected in the Layers dialog, regardless of where you click.
13720 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-dropshadow.jpg
13722 COLORING TEXT USING "KEEP TRANSPARENT"
13724 One last note in case you find your solid-colored text too boring.
13725 You can use that "Keep Transparent" button to make it easy to
13726 color your text in unusual ways. For instance, if I use the
13727 paintbrush tool, select the text layer, and turn on "Keep Trans.",
13728 I can scribble with a different color:
13729 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-fuzzylines.jpg
13730 or I can use the bucket fill tool to fill it with a pattern:
13731 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-patternfill.jpg
13732 or I can select the gradient tool from the toolbox, then drag from
13733 the bottom of the letters to the top to fill with a gradient:
13734 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-gradient.jpg
13735 or drag horizontally to make the gradient go in another direction:
13736 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson8/text-hgradient.jpg
13738 Homework: Make some nifty looking text. Paste it onto another image.
13740 Next lesson: Layer Effects, including some more cool text tricks.
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13762 To: courses@linuxchix.org
13763 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] All the logo scripts from Lesson 8
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13788 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:55:07 -0800
13789 Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
13790 > Unfortunately, there's no preview. So your best bet is to browse
13791 > through the list, trying anything that looks like it might be useful.
13793 > There are lots of logo styles, and most of them have quite a few
13794 > options, so this will probably keep you busy for a while. It's a
13795 > lot of fun seeing what's available. Unfortunately, I don't know of
13796 > anywhere where all the available logos are shown together on one page,
13797 > so you can quickly decide which logo script is the one you want for
13798 > any particular project. If you decide to make one, please share it!
13800 Even before reading that, I had decided I wanted to try them all, and when I saw the nice outputs I thought about putting them all on a page. Here they are !
13802 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=22
13804 (You'd better scroll the page to the right. The default design of my weblog is impossible... but Gimp lessons take all my time and I'll fix that later :))
13806 Each one has been left with its default options, so that means you can change the text of course, but also often the colors, textures, 3D depth, ...
13810 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sun Mar 20 11:21:32 2005
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13830 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] All the logo scripts from Lesson 8
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13857 Karine Proot writes:
13858 > Even before reading that, I had decided I wanted to try them all,
13859 > and when I saw the nice outputs I thought about putting them all
13860 > on a page. Here they are !
13862 > http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=22
13864 Cool! Thanks for doing that -- that's very useful, and I know
13865 I'll be referring to it when I need to choose a logo style.
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13887 From: Karine Proot <kproot@nerim.net>
13888 To: courses@linuxchix.org
13889 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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13915 And here is my homework, along with the french translation :
13917 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=23
13919 The part where you hand-write some poor text with the brush and apply one of the logo scripts to it really amazed me :) I'ts funny to see such a beautiful effect on such a pitiful raw material, I really like how it turns out.
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13982 On Saturday 19 Mar 2005 6:25 am, Akkana Peck wrote:
13983 > Up to now, we've created text using the text tool.
13984 > But GIMP can create much more interesting text than that.
13987 dont know if i missed something somewhere, but how do you draw a=20
13988 straight line in the gimp?
13993 http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon
13994 tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net
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14018 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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14050 On Monday 21 March 2005 06:04 am, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
14051 > On Saturday 19 Mar 2005 6:25 am, Akkana Peck wrote:
14052 > > Up to now, we've created text using the text tool.
14053 > > But GIMP can create much more interesting text than that.
14055 > dont know if i missed something somewhere, but how do you draw a
14056 > straight line in the gimp?
14060 click where you want the line to start, then hold down your shift key while
14061 you click where you want it to end. :)
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14118 Here's my homework for lesson 8. It's pretty bare bones. If I really
14119 wanted a good image here, I'd spend hours trying to get rid of the
14120 shopping cart in the background, and clearly I need to do more research
14121 on cool fonts. But at least I got text logo-ized ("Frosty") and got it
14122 into the image. Akkana, do I pass? :-)
14125 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson8.jpg
14133 From akkana@shallowsky.com Tue Mar 22 16:04:36 2005
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14151 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
14152 To: courses@linuxchix.org
14153 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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14182 Patricia Peck writes:
14183 > on cool fonts. But at least I got text logo-ized ("Frosty") and got it
14184 > into the image. Akkana, do I pass? :-)
14186 > http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson8.jpg
14190 Of course you pass! Everybody who turns in homework gets an A. :-)
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14249 > Of course you pass! Everybody who turns in homework gets an A. :-)
14252 Whew! Teach, I like the way you grade. :-)
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14317 Okay, I'm feeling a little stupid, but I have no shame, so I'm posting
14318 this for anyone else lurking out there who may be feeling stupid also.
14319 I did my homework for Lesson 8, but I did it by creating new text
14320 because I couldn't see where to change the text in the logo. Or, for
14321 that matter, where to change the colors.
14323 So Akkana kindly gave me some help, and Lo! It's right there in the
14324 little box you get when you first select a logo. Duh! I really must
14325 learn to read all those little boxes before trying more exotic stuff.
14327 Anyway, here's the same homework, done by changing the logo, not doing
14328 new text and logo-izing it with Frosty:
14330 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson8No2.jpg
14332 And here's the same thing using a different logo (Starburst) and
14333 changing the color:
14335 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/Lesson8No3.jpg
14342 From shirrell@pstat.com Sat Mar 26 04:24:37 2005
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14372 To: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
14373 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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14396 I am not doing a good job on my homework but I am using what I have
14397 learned. Bezier curves are the "cat's meow". I have put a pdf file on
14398 our web site produced from FrameMaker on a Sun using the jpg files
14399 created in Gimp. Need some better pictures and some design changes.
14400 This is a work in progress
14402 http://www.pstat.com/Annex04.pg1.pdf
14407 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Tue Mar 29 16:43:19 2005
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14427 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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14429 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
14431 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:44:40 -0500
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14458 On Friday 18 March 2005 07:55 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
14459 > Up to now, we've created text using the text tool.
14460 > But GIMP can create much more interesting text than that.
14464 I added text to a photo here:
14466 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/sapphie.jpg
14468 > LOGO-IZING EXISTING TEXT
14470 For some reason this lesson was really hard for me. I think my main
14471 problem is forgetting I have layers toggled on or off. Frustrating :)
14473 > MAKING DROP SHADOWS
14475 > Now make all the letters in the shadow layer black. The fastest way
14476 > to do that is to make sure black is selected as the foreground color
14477 > in the toolbox, select the Bucket Fill tool, check "FG Color Fill" and
14478 > "Fill Whole Selection" in the tool options, turn on "Keep
14479 > Transparency", then click on a letter.
14481 In Gimp 1 instead of "Fill Whole Selection" I think you need to use
14482 Select>All or Ctrl-A from the main menu.
14484 I used text from my husband's website, which I need to fancy up anyway :)
14486 > Voila! A drop shadow.
14488 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/logo1b.jpg
14490 > COLORING TEXT USING "KEEP TRANSPARENT"
14492 > One last note in case you find your solid-colored text too boring.
14493 > You can use that "Keep Transparent" button to make it easy to
14494 > color your text in unusual ways.
14498 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/logo1c.jpg
14502 ...the continuing popularity of micro$oft window$ only proves that ten
14503 million monkeys really *do* sit down at ten million keyboards...
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14536 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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14563 Finally got to the last part of Lesson 8, the drop shadows and the
14564 colors. There are sure possibilities for cool-looking stuff here! I
14565 didn't paste these onto an image, just did the lesson, and not very
14566 artistically at that, but may as well post them anyway for the record.
14569 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/gimpshadow8.jpg
14571 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/gimpcolor8.jpg
14578 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Sat Apr 23 21:05:22 2005
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14598 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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14600 Subject: re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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14630 I took an old photo -of my first winter here- and added some text. The text
14631 is in two layers, each using a different gradient. I think I need to
14632 practice this lesson more because there are soooo many things you can do
14633 with text and I feel like I have barely scraped the surface.
14635 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/sn09.jpg
14640 From cabucholtz@yahoo.com.au Sun Mar 20 15:30:33 2005
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14684 I've done my homework, more birds. I'm not entirely happy with the
14685 result but I've learnt far more about gimp than the results indicate,
14686 it looks like I should've finished this in a few minutes, but I've
14687 spent most of the day on this, including taking the photo ! =20
14690 http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cabucholtz/detail?.dir=3D/da37&.dnm=3Def=
14691 bc.jpg&.src=3Dph&.tok=3DphbB6sCBp_u3ZySB
14696 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
14697 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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14749 On Saturday 19 March 2005 11:30 pm, Carolyn Bucholtz wrote:
14751 > it looks like I should've finished this in a few minutes
14753 Not hardly!! That is simply awesome. That's a *photo*??? You've made it
14754 look like an oil painting :)
14759 > http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cabucholtz/detail?.dir=/da37&.dnm=efbc.j
14760 >pg&.src=ph&.tok=phbB6sCBp_u3ZySB
14765 From kjh@flyballdogs.com Sun Mar 20 16:52:43 2005
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14789 Subject: Re: [Courses] Re: Lesson 8: Text Effects (How to get really cool
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14828 Nothing fancy but I used this weeks lesson to replace
14829 a plain text logo with a new graphical representation.
14831 http://womensfooty.com
14835 http://womensfooty.com
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14882 > > it looks like I should've finished this in a few minutes
14885 Thank you for your kind words. I really love the clone tool - I took
14886 the photo early in the morning so its a bit dark, but it didn't hide
14887 the clothes line, and bits of a boat and caravan that were behind the
14890 95% of the time I use linux that's on a very old laptop, not much
14891 memory or processing power, so yesterday frustrated by slow response
14892 I used gimp on a windows machine. I strongly advise backing up as
14893 you go !. I'd finished all the cloning bits and decided to save the
14894 work before I tackled the text bit. 5 minutes later without warning
14895 gimp crashed with a message saying all work would be lost. Later on
14896 I had to stop the gimp process because it froze, couldn't do
14897 anything. I don't know whether these things happen with the linux
14898 version, it hasn't so far, but better not to risk it.
14900 Today I'm going to play with the second part of the lesson, try some
14901 of those text effects, drop shadow etc, looks like good fun - on my
14907 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
14908 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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14930 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 9: Layer Effects, including more text tricks
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14954 By now, you should be getting comfortable using a few layers, maybe
14955 even more than a few, to draw or paste parts of one image on top of
14956 another. But gimp offers other interesting ways to combine layers.
14960 A Layer Mask is a way of making a layer transparent in some places
14961 and opaque in others. It's sort of like the opacity slider in the
14962 Layers dialog, but it's more powerful.
14964 A layer mask is a black-and-white image which is aligned with the
14965 layer it masks. Here's how it works: everywhere the layer mask is
14966 white, that layer is opaque. Where the mask is black, the layer is
14967 transparent. Where the mask is grey, the image is translucent: the
14968 darker grey the mask is, the more transparent the layer is. You can
14969 draw on a layer mask with any gimp drawing tool. The catch is, you
14970 can't really see what you're drawing: you can only see its effect on
14971 the layer, and the tiny copy of the mask in the Layers dialog.
14973 Confused? Let's do an example to make it clearer.
14975 Let's say I have a photo of my car:
14976 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/fiat.jpg
14977 and I put a label on it, using the text tool:
14978 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/fiat-labelled.jpg
14979 That text is kind of intrusive, though. What if I made it sort of
14980 fade into the background as it gets closer to the car?
14982 The first step is to create a layer mask: I go to the Layers dialog,
14983 right-click on the text layer, and select "Add Layer Mask..."
14984 A dialog comes up, but the defaults, of "White (full opacity)"
14985 is almost always the right thing to choose. This means that the layer
14986 mask will be white everywhere, so the layer will initially be visible
14989 In the Layers dialog, now a new box appears to the right of the box
14990 for the text layer, showing a miniature preview of what the layer mask
14991 looks like (a white rectangle). The box is also surrounded with a
14992 white border, which means that the layer mask is selected: if
14993 you draw on the image right now, you'll be drawing into the layer
14994 mask, not into the layer.
14996 If you ever want to see what a layer mask looks like in full size, in
14997 gimp 2, go to the Layers dialog, right-click on the layer and choose
14998 Show Layer Mask. I don't know of any way to do this in gimp 1.
14999 Try it now (notice that the white border on the mask box in the
15000 Layers dialog turns a different color), then choose the same menu
15001 item again to go back to viewing the text layer normally.
15003 Now it's time to draw on the layer mask. I'll use the gradient tool,
15004 to make a fade that goes from white (fully visible) at the top of the
15005 layer to black (transparent) on the bottom).
15007 I select the gradient tool in the toolbox: it looks like a horizontal
15008 fade from black to white (maybe with another color in between,
15009 depending on gimp version). There are tons of tool options: for
15010 now, I want all the defaults: Mode Normal, Shape Linear.
15012 The normal way to use the gradient tool is to mouse down at one end
15013 of the layer, then drag to the other end. I want to fade from the
15014 foreground color (black) at the bottom to the background color (white)
15015 at the top, so I'm going to click at the bottom of the text layer,
15016 then drag straight up. When I let go, the layer mask is filled with a
15017 gradient, where the gradient is darker, toward the bottom of the text,
15018 the text will be more transparent. Like this:
15019 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/fiat-gradient.jpg
15021 If I "View Layer Mask", this is what I see:
15022 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/fiat-gradientmask.jpg
15023 while my layers dialog shows a small preview of the mask:
15024 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/fiat-layersdialog.jpg
15026 It's sometimes confusing to have a layer mask selected. When you're
15027 done drawing on your layer mask, try to remember to click on the layer
15028 preview next to the layer mask, so that the mask isn't selected any
15029 more. Otherwise, gimp will give you weird complaints when you try to
15030 save as jpg, and you'll get confused (at least, I do) when you try to
15031 do anything with that layer. If you ever try to draw on a layer and
15032 nothing appears, one thing to check is whether you have a layer mask
15033 selected, instead of the layer itself.
15035 You can use a layer mask for more than just gradients. Since it's
15036 actually an image, and you can draw on it just like an image, you
15037 can use all the normal drawing tools: you can draw on the mask with
15038 the pencil tool to make only parts of the image transparent, or
15039 you can use the ellipse select tool and bucket fill to make an
15040 oval area disappear. You can even use a layer mask instead of
15041 the selection tools we used in lesson 7: if you draw white on the
15042 layer mask everywhere outside your chosen object, then you end up
15043 with a transparent layer with just the object in it, and you can
15044 put other backgrounds underneath. Newsforge had an article
15045 mentioning that technique just recently:
15046 http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/16/1427218&tid=130&tid=75&tid=93
15050 Bump Map is a built-in gimp filter which uses one layer to generate
15051 a 3-dimensional lighting effect on another layer. It comes in handy
15052 for all sorts of projects, but especially for making text.
15054 I'll start by making a new image, and using the Bucket Fill tool to
15055 fill it with a pattern. Then I'll put a layer of white text on top of
15056 it: http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/bumpmaptxt.jpg
15058 Now I'm going to use the white text as a bump map for the woodgrain
15059 pattern. I select the woodgrain background layer in the Layers
15060 dialog, then go to Filters->Map->Bump Map...
15062 The Bump Map dialog comes up (in Gimp 2.2, it includes a preview).
15063 The dropdown at the top lets you choose which layer will create the
15064 shape of the bump. It can even be a layer in a different image, as
15065 long as that image is already loaded in your current gimp session.
15067 You can adjust lots of different parameters, such as where the light
15068 source appears to be coming from (that's Azimuth), how high the bump
15069 will be, and how wide it will seem to be.
15071 Play around with the parameters, and try it. The background layer
15072 will change to include the "bump" generated from the text layer.
15073 The text layer is still visible: you may want to toggle it off
15074 so that you only see the bump map.
15077 it: http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/bumpmap.jpg
15079 If you want a smoother bump, use gaussian blur to blur the edges of
15080 the text layer before running the bump map. Like so:
15081 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/bumpmapblur.jpg
15083 You can run bump map on colors other than white, but usually it works
15084 best on white. Experiment with it to get just the effect you want.
15088 You may have noticed the Mode dropdown in the Layers dialog,
15089 and wondered what that was.
15091 Layer Modes control how a layer is combined with the ones below it
15092 to produce the total image you see. Normally (in "Normal" mode),
15093 you see all of the layer on top; if there's anything still
15094 transparent, then you see pieces of the next layer down; if there's
15095 still anything transparent, you see the the next layer, and so on.
15097 But gimp can combine layers in ways more complicated than that.
15098 For instance, for each point in the image, it might show you the
15099 top layer minus the second layer, divided by the third layer.
15101 Why would you ever want to do that? It turns out there are some
15102 interesting effects you can do by combining layers in odd ways.
15104 Let's say I start with a white background layer; then, starting with a
15105 new transparent layer, I use the pencil tool to write some blue text:
15106 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxt.jpg
15107 Then I make a drop shadow, then blur the original layer:
15108 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtblur.jpg
15110 By playing with layer modes, I can change this in interesting ways.
15111 For example, with the blue layer selected, if I change the mode to
15112 Divide, the color changes and I get this odd effect, somewhat 3-d effect:
15113 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtdivide.jpg
15114 Screen mode gives me a different 3-d effect:
15115 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtscreen.jpg
15117 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtdifference.jpg
15119 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtaddition.jpg
15121 Now for some even weirder effects: I'll turn the Background a medium
15122 grey (using Levels or Bucket Fill), then try some different modes on
15123 the blue blurred text layer:
15125 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtgreydiv.jpg
15127 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtgreydodge.jpg
15129 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtgreyadd.jpg
15131 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/gimptxtgreydiff.jpg
15133 If you wanted to use the result of one of these, you could use "Select
15134 by Color" to select out the grey background, and Edit->Clear it to
15135 leave you with just the text. Here's the Addition one:
15136 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/justgimptxtadd.jpg
15138 Don't worry if you don't understand exactly what each mode does. Most
15139 people don't. The important thing is to know that Modes exist, and
15140 that you can use them to combine layers in interesting ways. This
15141 means that (a) you can play around with trying different layer modes
15142 to see what they do, and (b) you can follow tutorials on using layer
15143 modes, such as these two:
15144 http://at8.abo.fi/~mwikholm/com/gimp/tutor/glass
15145 http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat1/?PHPSESSID=cbe351c9a3609daeff9af437600297ea
15147 Here's a discussion of what some of the layer modes do mathematically,
15148 for those so inclined: http://www.pegtop.net/delphi/blendmodes/
15149 It's oriented toward Photoshop, not Gimp, but as a Gimp user you can
15150 very often follow Photoshop tutorials -- the two apps have many of
15151 the same capabilities.
15153 Homework: Use any combination of Layer Masks, Bump Map, and Layer
15154 Modes to create something interesting from an image composed of
15155 several layers. Doesn't have to be text: you might be surprised
15156 what you can do starting with just a mouse scribble.
15158 Next Lesson: Stitching Panoramas from Multiple Images.
15160 From kproot@nerim.net Sat Mar 26 19:53:00 2005
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15181 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 9: Layer Effects, including more text
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15207 For that one, I couldn't resist and decided my poor fonts were not enough anymore. And as you said Akkana, I spent almost 2 hours looking in wonder at all these free fonts, wanting to try them all (hopefully after 30 or so I decided I should better try to find a font that would fit my image... but seeing so many, I became exacting and it took much time anyway!)
15209 So here is my homework, in french as usual :
15211 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=27
15213 I copied a lot of Akkana's idea (the car photo made me think about my sister's car, then I tried a lot of textures for the bump map effect but wood is really the best...)
15217 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Sat Apr 23 21:05:22 2005
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15237 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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15239 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 9: Layer Effects,
15240 including more text tricks
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15267 fun - - especially once I learned how to draw on the layer mask ;-)
15269 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/mow2.jpg
15272 using blue-green gradient with "difference" mode:
15274 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/mow3.jpg
15276 > Now I'm going to use the white text as a bump map for the woodgrain
15277 > pattern. =A0I select the woodgrain background layer in the Layers
15278 > dialog, then go to Filters->Map->Bump Map...
15280 In the patterns dialogue? =A0I'm still using Gimp =A01.2.5 =A0so you may ha=
15282 something I don't =A0 :)
15284 > The Bump Map dialog comes up (in Gimp 2.2, it includes a preview).
15286 In Gimp 1.2.5 also preview.
15288 > Play around with the parameters, and try it. =A0The background layer
15289 > will change to include the "bump" generated from the text layer.
15290 > The text layer is still visible: you may want to toggle it off
15291 > so that you only see the bump map.
15293 I'm not managing to do this. =A0I can make the text "bump" but when I toggl=
15297 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/cousins.jpg
15299 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/cousins.xcf (warning - nearly 1Mb)
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15325 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 9: Layer Effects,
15326 including more text tricks
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15353 Julie Sloan writes:
15354 > fun - - especially once I learned how to draw on the layer mask ;-)
15356 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/mow2.jpg
15360 > > Now I'm going to use the white text as a bump map for the woodgrain
15361 > > pattern. =A0I select the woodgrain background layer in the Layers
15362 > > dialog, then go to Filters->Map->Bump Map...
15364 > In the patterns dialogue? =A0I'm still using Gimp =A01.2.5 =A0so you ma=
15366 > something I don't =A0 :)
15368 No, just in the Filters right-click menu of the image.
15369 It's there in 1.2 too.
15371 > > The Bump Map dialog comes up (in Gimp 2.2, it includes a preview).
15373 > In Gimp 1.2.5 also preview.
15375 Yes, so it does! Good, that makes it much easier to decide on the
15379 > > Play around with the parameters, and try it. =A0The background layer
15380 > > will change to include the "bump" generated from the text layer.
15381 > > The text layer is still visible: you may want to toggle it off
15382 > > so that you only see the bump map.
15384 > I'm not managing to do this. =A0I can make the text "bump" but when I t=
15386 > it off it's gone.
15388 In the example in the lesson, I started with two layers, the
15389 background layer (filled with a pattern) and the text layer (just
15390 white text). I made the background layer the active layer, then
15391 called up Bump Map.
15393 In the Bump Map dialog, I made sure the text layer was the one
15394 selected as the bump map; fiddled with the settings as needed, then
15397 Bump Map bumps the background layer, but if the white text layer was
15398 visible before, then I still see the white text layer covering up
15399 most of the bumped background. But if I toggle off visibility of
15400 the white text layer (leaving the background layer visible), then
15401 I can see the raised text without any white getting in the way.
15402 (The white text layer was used as the bump map but the layer isn't
15403 itself directly visible in the final image.)
15405 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/cousins.jpg
15406 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/cousins.xcf (warning - nearly 1Mb)
15408 Did you start with a colored text layer, or with text that came from
15409 one of the logo scripts? It looks like your text layer is already
15410 bumped (and perhaps has other effects on it), and separated from
15413 If I use your text layer as the bump map, though, and the pretty
15414 gradient as the background, what I get initially (with the text
15415 layer still visible) looks pretty much like nothing happened.
15416 But if I turn off visibility on the text layer, so the text is no
15417 longer covering the bump, now it looks different:
15418 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson9/cousins-bumped.jpg
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15442 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 10: Stitching Panoramic Images
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15466 Sometimes a camera lens just isn't wide enough to show what there
15467 is to see. You stare at a wide, sweeping vista, but when you look in
15468 the camera's viewfinder, it only shows a tiny piece of the view you
15469 see with your eyes.
15471 In this lesson, I'll show you how to shoot multiple photos, then
15472 use GIMP to stitch them into a panorama.
15476 Shooting panoramas means taking a lot of side by side shots that
15477 overlap. Start at one end -- I usually start at the far left -- and
15478 shoot a picture, then rotate the camera a little to the right (not
15479 very much: each image has to overlap with the previous one), shoot
15480 another image, and so on.
15482 The process of combining them into one wide panoramic image is
15483 usually called "stitching", and you can make the job easier if
15484 you keep in mind a few tricks when you're shooting the images:
15486 - Overlap a lot: take lots of images. Overlap helps because all
15487 camera lenses have some "warp" at the edges, and trying to overlap
15488 two edges that are warped in opposite ways can be challenging.
15489 Lots of overlap also means that you'll have more images than you
15490 really need, so if some turn out to be not as good, you can discard
15491 them without hurting the final image.
15493 Overlap at least 1/3 of the frame with the next frame (e.g. the
15494 right 1/3 of image 1 is the same as the left 1/3 of image 2), but
15495 more is better. I usually overlap at least 50%.
15497 - Keep the camera level. If you have a tripod or a rock or fence to
15498 set the camera on, it will make it easier to make the panorama later.
15499 If not, just try hard to keep the horizon level in the viewfinder.
15500 GIMP can rotate images after the fact, but that makes things harder.
15502 - Try to keep the exposures the same. If you're shooting a pan that
15503 starts in dim light and ends in bright, it sometimes helps to meter
15504 off a spot somewhere near the center. With most cameras, you can
15505 point at the spot in the center, press the shutter button halfway
15506 down (a light comes on to say the camera is ready), then move the
15507 camera back to wherever you're shooting your image.
15509 - Zoom in a little. You'll have to use more images to cover your
15510 scene, but there's a lot less lens warp when you're zoomed in, so
15511 it's actually easier to stitch a panorama that was shot that way.
15513 Of course, none of these are absolute rules. If you want to see the
15514 difference, try shooting several sequences, and see what you prefer.
15515 Most of you are probably using digital cameras, so shooting more
15516 images costs nothing extra.
15520 Once you get your images uploaded, start gimp and create a new, blank
15521 image (either a white or transparent background is fine) big enough to
15522 hold the final panorama.
15524 How big is that? Well, first decide what resolution you'll be using.
15525 You may or may not want to use the full resolution of your camera.
15526 Panoramas are really big, and since GIMP has to keep all the images
15527 loaded, plus a bunch of other information, a big panorama can really
15528 eat up memory and make the system slow. If you have a lot of memory,
15529 or you really need that resolution because you're going to print the
15530 resulting panorama at a large size, then go for it. If you don't have
15531 much memory and your goal is something to stick on the web, you might
15532 want to scale down. For this lesson, I'll be using five images of size
15533 609 x 457, but I'd normally work at one and a half to double that.
15534 My original images:
15535 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/pict0280.jpg
15536 and 81, 82, 83, 84 ... 5 images total.
15538 Once you know your images' width, you can make an estimate of the final
15539 canvas size. The final width will be no greater than the sum of all
15540 the image widths, in other words, imagewidth * number_of_images.
15541 (For this course, I'm assuming you're making a horizontal panorama.
15542 If yours is vertical, then swap width and height.)
15544 In reality, though, if you overlapped at 60% of the image width, then
15545 the final width is actually imagewidth * number_of_images * .6 plus
15546 some slop in case you really overlapped by less than you thought.
15548 The final height will be roughly the same as one image's height,
15549 but allow a little slop there, too, since you may have shot some
15550 images higher than others. (If you used a tripod, you won't need
15553 I'm going to make a panorama out of these photos:
15554 (why the odd numbers? I don't remember. :-)
15555 If I leave room for a 30% overlap (though I think I was closer to
15556 half, assuming 30% will make the canvas wider so I'll be sure I won't
15557 run out of room), the width comes out to 609 * .7 * 5.
15558 That comes out 2131.5, but I'll be even more conservative and round
15559 up to 2150 (I'll crop it later). I'll use 500 for the height.
15561 Once you know your canvas size, use File->New... to create a new image.
15562 You're ready to start loading in your images.
15566 Start with the leftmost image, and open it as a layer in your new
15567 image. Gimp 2 has File->Open As Layer. In gimp 1, just open each
15568 image, Copy, then Paste into the panorama image. Remember to click the
15569 New Layer button in the Layers dialog to make it a real layer, not
15570 floating. Use the move tool to move it all the way over to the left,
15571 and roughly centered vertically.
15573 Next, open the second image as a new layer, the same way you opened
15574 the first; but this time, use the move tool to drag it to the right
15575 so that it's approximately where it lines up with the first image.
15576 Don't worry about getting it exactly lined up just yet. Go ahead and
15577 open all the images as new layers, and drag each one to roughly the
15580 Once you have all the images loaded, in the right order and at
15581 approximately the right places, it's a good time to save the image as
15582 an xcf. This will preserve all the layers, and the other effects
15585 Here's a screenshot of my layers lined up:
15586 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/layersloaded.jpg
15587 (Obviously I overlapped a lot more than 30%! My canvas is way bigger
15588 than it needs to be. But too big is okay. I'll crop it later.)
15592 Now comes the hard part: lining up all the images accurately.
15594 Start with the first and second images. Toggle visibility off for
15595 all the other layers in the Layers dialog, so they don't distract,
15596 and zoom in quite a bit: you need to be able to see details.
15598 Now we use a trick. In the Layers dialog, there's a slider marked
15599 Opacity. Select the second layer (if gimp gave you a Background
15600 layer on your new image, ignore it; "second layer" means the layer
15601 for the second image in the panorama) and slide the Opacity slider
15602 to about 50%. The image should go translucent: although the second
15603 image is on top of the first image, you can see the first through the
15604 second where they overlap.
15606 Now that you can see both at once, use the Move tool to move the
15607 second layer around until it lines up as well as you can manage.
15608 The two layers will not fit perfectly everywhere: even if you kept the
15609 camera perfectly level, lens warp will make the images different at
15610 the edges. Try to make them fit each other pretty well around the
15611 middle of the overlapping area. Don't worry too much about the edges
15614 When you get really close, you'll probably see it seem to "snap" into
15615 focus, as ghostly double images become sharp. When you get close,
15616 sometimes it helps to put the mouse aside and use the keyboard: when
15617 the move tool is selected and a layer is active, you can use the arrow
15618 keys to move the layer around by one pixel at a time.
15620 You may find at this point that one image is tilted relative to the
15621 other one. GIMP's rotate tool can fix that: rotate just the layer
15622 that needs it, usually by only a few degrees. The preview in the
15623 rotate tool unfortunately doesn't handle transparency (and earlier
15624 versions of gimp don't have a rotate preview at all), so you'll
15625 probably have to rotate and undo several times before you get close.
15626 Fixing rotations are the hardest and most frustrating part of
15627 panoramas. For your first panorama, don't panic if the images are a
15628 bit tilted with respect to one another. Try the rotate tool if you
15629 want, but if it's too frustrating, just leave it. We may be able to
15630 compensate for it later.
15632 Once you're reasonably happy with the alignment of the first two
15633 layers, slide layer 2's opacity back to 100%, toggle layer 3's
15634 visibility on, select it, slide its opacity to 50%, and line it up
15635 with layer 2 the same way you did before. If you have more layers,
15636 repeat until they're all lined up.
15638 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/linedup.jpg
15639 You can see that in my supposedly "lined up" panorama, all kinds
15640 of things don't fit. You may also notice that the last two images
15641 had to be rotated, because they were so far off. I really did a
15642 bad job of shooting this panorama. Good thing I have gimp!
15646 To fix those non-fitting edges, Layer Masks, from Lesson 9, are just
15649 We're going to use the layer mask to make layer 2 fade to transparent
15650 near its left edge, where it overlaps with layer 1. Toggle
15651 visibility off on all the other layers, so it's easier to see
15652 what you're doing. Then select the gradient tool in the toolbox.
15654 We'll draw a gradient on the layer mask, just like we did in Lesson
15655 9. Click on the edge of the second layer, and drag right to
15656 approximately where you think the images might line up a little
15657 better. If you got really good alignment, then just drag in a little.
15658 My images don't match very well, so I'm dragging in a lot.
15659 Screenshot: http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/gradient.jpg
15661 At this point, that dotted yellow line at the layer boundary might be
15662 getting in the way. You can temporarily turn it off: View->Show Layer
15663 Boundary. (In gimp 1, use View->Toggle Selection.) Like Show
15664 Selection, this is confusing if you leave it off: you won't be able to
15665 see which layer is selected. So remember to turn it back on again.
15667 It's also confusing to have a layer mask selected. When you're done
15668 setting up your gradient, click on the layer preview next to the layer
15669 mask, so that the mask isn't selected any more. Otherwise, gimp will
15670 give you weird complaints when you try to save as jpg, and you'll get
15671 confused (at least, I do) when you try to do anything with that layer.
15673 Here's my layers dialog now:
15674 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/layersdialog.jpg
15675 Notice that the layer is selected, not the layer mask; and notice
15676 that the layer mask preview is a little fuzzy on the left side,
15677 where it fades to black.
15679 With the first layer mask finished, my first two images look like this:
15680 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/onelayermasked.jpg
15681 Compare that to what they looked like before (in the gradient screen
15682 shot). Quite a difference!
15684 Now toggle the next layer visible again, add a mask, and draw a
15685 gradient. Repeat until you've added a mask for every layer but the
15686 first one. Here's what my image looks like now:
15687 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/alllayersmasked.jpg
15689 TURN OFF BAD IMAGES
15691 We're almost done. You have a pretty decent panorama at this point.
15692 But there may still be a few areas that bug you.
15694 Sometimes, at this point, I discover that one of my images just isn't
15695 as good as the rest. Maybe it's not focused well, or too dark, or too
15696 rotated. Sometimes just toggling off one layer makes the image look a
15697 lot better. Don't feel like you have to use every image: that's one
15698 reason to use a lot of overlap when you shoot, so you can throw away
15699 bad images. In my case, I found that turning layer 4 off improved the
15700 image. I didn't delete that layer: it's still stored in the .xcf
15701 (don't forget to save the xcf file frequently, so you don't lose any
15702 of your hard work) in case I change my mind later, but visibility is
15703 turned off. It takes up extra space (xcf files of panoramas with
15704 lots of images can be quite large) but it's worth it.
15706 PAINT OUT BAD AREAS
15708 But even if you turn off some images, you may still have areas that
15709 just aren't quite right. In my image, there's some confusion where
15710 the drainage comes in from the lower left, where I can see two pieces
15711 overlapping. Also, I don't have a sharp edge on the right side of the
15712 center canyon right near the middle of the image. Sometimes you can
15713 keep making bigger or smaller gradients until you get it right, or
15714 angle the gradients (they don't have to be exactly horizontal); but if
15715 that doesn't work, there's a better way.
15717 Remember that a layer mask is just a white image that you can draw on
15718 in black. Anywhere you draw black, the upper image will become
15719 transparent: effectively, it will be erased and the lower image will
15722 So make sure your foreground color is black, and choose a drawing tool
15723 (I'll use paintbrush) and a large fuzzy brush. Then figure out which
15724 layer is the one with the offending areas you want to make transparent.
15725 Click on that layer mask in the Layers dialog to select it. Then paint!
15727 After painting out those bad areas, here's my final panorama:
15728 http://shallowsky.com/images/gimpcourse/lesson10/alllayersmasked.jpg
15732 If you make a lot of panoramas and get tired of the "calculate canvas
15733 size and create layer masks" steps, you can use my gimp plug-in,
15734 "Pandora", to automate those parts. It's at
15735 http://shallowsky.com/software/pandora/
15737 HOMEWORK: If you have an appropriate set of images, or can make one,
15738 stitch a panorama. Just a little one, two images, is fine.
15740 If you don't have any suitable panoramic material handy, you can
15741 do an alternate project instead: put two images together, and make
15742 one image fade into the other using a layer mask.
15744 NEXT LESSON: The panorama lesson is somewhat long and tricky,
15745 plus I posted it a day late (I've been travelling, and haven't had
15746 connectivity for the lasat few days ... I shot lots of panoramas,
15747 though, so now I have a lot of stitching work ahead of me!).
15748 So I'm going to allow two weeks for this lesson's homework, and won't
15749 post a regular lesson next week. Instead, I'll post some sources of
15750 gimp information, tips, and tutorials, and I'll talk briefly about
15751 GIMP plugins and scripts: where to get them and how to build them.
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15773 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 10: Stitching Panoramic Images
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15796 I have a friend that lives in a unit overlooking Sydney Harbour, so I
15797 thought, great, what a panorama to stitch together, and I could even
15798 put a title on it using a bump map from last week's lesson. So I
15799 asked him to take several shots for me. He sent me 6 overlapping
15800 shots. I've spent a couple of hours trying to get them to line up,
15801 but I confess I've given up. I'd line up the centres ok, but there
15802 was a bit of rotation correction to do, but it was too much and just
15803 blurred the picture. Some shots would have needed a little zoom
15804 either bigger or smaller to get them to line up properly also.=20
15805 Although I haven't anything to show for this lesson, I've learnt a
15806 lot. A tripod would make the job much easier!! I'm going on a short
15807 holiday to a place called Port Stephens north of Sydney next month, a
15808 good place for practising taking a series of photos for an panoramic
15809 view, so maybe I'll have something to show at a later date.
15814 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
15815 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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15835 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
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15837 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 10: Stitching Panoramic Images
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15864 Carolyn Bucholtz writes:
15865 > but I confess I've given up. I'd line up the centres ok, but there
15866 > was a bit of rotation correction to do, but it was too much and just
15867 > blurred the picture. Some shots would have needed a little zoom
15868 > either bigger or smaller to get them to line up properly also.
15870 Bummer! I find that if many shots need rotation, it gets really
15871 hard. If some of them are zoomed, that would be much worse; you'd
15872 probably have to use the "measure" tool (looks like a compass, the
15873 kind for for drawing circles) to measure sizes, then calculate how
15874 much to scale. That would be a lot of extra work, though!
15876 > Although I haven't anything to show for this lesson, I've learnt a
15877 > lot. A tripod would make the job much easier!! I'm going on a short
15878 > holiday to a place called Port Stephens north of Sydney next month, a
15879 > good place for practising taking a series of photos for an panoramic
15881 Definitely! Or maybe even putting the camera on a ledge or fence.
15882 I've been on vacation this week, and shot a lot of panoramas (which
15883 I haven't stitched yet); in several cases there was a fence railing
15884 handy to rest the camera on, or a rock, and I'm looking forward to
15885 seeing how much that helps.
15887 Don't worry about not having anything for the homework. Panoramas
15888 do take a lot of work, and it's so much easier if you have a good
15889 set of images to start with. I hope everyone tries it like you did,
15890 just to see how the techniques work, even if you don't come up with
15891 anything right now. Now you'll know the tricks when you go on your
15894 One other point that might be worth mentioning, for people still
15895 thinking about subjects they might want to shoot for panoramas:
15896 sometimes you see panoramic shots of nearby buildings, like the
15897 inside of a cathedral, or a town square where you're surrounded by
15898 lots of interesting buildings. Those are quite a bit harder to do
15899 than natural landscapes, because buildings have lots of parallel and
15900 right-angle lines, and because of the lens warp from the camera
15901 lens, the parallel lines don't line up properly from one shot to the
15902 next. (Some architectural photographers use special lenses that
15903 eliminate the warp and make parallel lines parallel; I'm sure there
15904 are plugins which can do this digitally as well.) Distant buildings,
15905 like a harbor shot, usually don't have this problem because the
15906 buildings aren't so tall; it's just when you're inside or surrounded
15907 by tall objects with parallel lines that it's a problem.
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15968 On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:19:25AM -0700, Akkana Peck wrote:
15970 > Definitely! Or maybe even putting the camera on a ledge or fence.
15971 > I've been on vacation this week, and shot a lot of panoramas (which
15972 > I haven't stitched yet); in several cases there was a fence railing
15973 > handy to rest the camera on, or a rock, and I'm looking forward to
15974 > seeing how much that helps.
15977 Many tripods use 1/4" (i think) screw that seems to be a standard
15978 among manufactures. Therefore you can take a bolt of the same
15979 size and epoxy it upside down to the top of a pop bottle.
15981 Now you can carry around the cap and wherever there is a bottle
15982 of pop, there is now a little tripod. Handy to keep in the car
15988 From patpeck@znet.com Sat May 7 15:11:13 2005
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16044 Just checking in here with my experience with Lesson 10. I did the
16045 whole thing, step by step (with one exception, see below), and I was
16046 surprised that it wasn't difficult. I had put it off because first, I
16047 didn't have a good panoramic subject, second, I didn't shoot what I did
16048 have all that well, and third, it looked hard. But it wasn't, only I
16049 screwed up, so I don't have anything I want to post as yet.
16051 Akkana clearly said to zoom in quite a bit for detail, but I sorta
16052 skipped that part and worked with the normal 100% size. Wrongo! I got
16053 it all done (only 3 images) and thought, gee, that was pretty easy and
16054 it looks good, but then, just for the heck of it, I enlarged it, and it
16055 didn't look so good any more. So I'm going to do it again for the
16056 practice before I post anything.
16058 Just a word to the wise... :-)
16063 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Mon May 9 06:07:08 2005
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16085 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 10: Stitching Panoramic Images
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16114 On Saturday 07 May 2005 01:10 am, Patricia Peck wrote:
16115 > Just checking in here with my experience with Lesson 10. I did the
16116 > whole thing, step by step (with one exception, see below), and I was
16117 > surprised that it wasn't difficult. I had put it off because first, I
16118 > didn't have a good panoramic subject, second, I didn't shoot what I did
16119 > have all that well, and third, it looked hard. But it wasn't, only I
16120 > screwed up, so I don't have anything I want to post as yet.
16122 > Akkana clearly said to zoom in quite a bit for detail, but I sorta
16123 > skipped that part and worked with the normal 100% size. Wrongo! I got
16124 > it all done (only 3 images) and thought, gee, that was pretty easy and
16125 > it looks good, but then, just for the heck of it, I enlarged it, and it
16126 > didn't look so good any more. So I'm going to do it again for the
16127 > practice before I post anything.
16129 > Just a word to the wise... :-)
16131 I have been putting it off too. I'm thinking about doing it a bit
16132 differently - for about a week I took pictures of a tree in my yard as it
16133 leafed out. Hopefully all these pictures will line up on top of each
16134 other. I'm not sure what I want to do with it once I have them stacked up
16135 though, maybe go from side to side, or maybe in increments from the middle
16136 out, or some other way. I've been putting it off because the thought of
16137 lining all those layers up is really intimidating me. Plus the pictures I
16138 didn't get on disk I still have to scan (I used my 35mm instead of the
16139 digital) and in order to use my scanner I have to pop over into that other
16140 0$. Excuses, excuses.
16150 From patpeck@znet.com Mon May 9 07:22:58 2005
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16210 > I've been putting it off because the thought of
16211 > lining all those layers up is really intimidating me. Plus the pictures I
16212 > didn't get on disk I still have to scan (I used my 35mm instead of the
16213 > digital) and in order to use my scanner I have to pop over into that other
16214 > 0$. Excuses, excuses.
16216 Aha! Another scaredy cat! :-) I was sure I wasn't the only one. I'm
16217 also sure there are others out there. And in fact, your excuses are
16218 pretty good. Better than mine. I just don't seem to get around to it,
16219 and then when I do, I skip that "zoom in" part that turns out to be
16220 pretty darned important. Oh, well, one of these days, I'll do it again,
16221 I will, I will. :-)
16223 I like your idea of the tree leafing out. Very intriguing! Offhand,
16224 I'd think from side to side - from bare(ish) to leafy. But inside out
16225 is pretty intriguing, though it might be harder to do. Also offhand,
16226 and not having seen the photos, or the tree for that matter, I'd think
16227 matching wouldn't be so important, except to have the trunk and major
16228 branches in the same place in each shot. For the leaf part, you'd have
16229 to sort of dissolve, wouldn't you?
16231 And thinking of dissolving from one image to another - do we know how to
16232 do that? Maybe do overlapping gradients, one coming in and one going
16233 out? Hmmm... must ask Akkana if that would work, and how.
16235 I'm really getting into this idea, but don't have a tree to use, and
16236 it's too late now, anyway, so it's all UP TO YOU. But no pressure. :-)
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16294 Julie Sloan writes:
16295 > I have been putting it off too. I'm thinking about doing it a bit
16296 > differently - for about a week I took pictures of a tree in my yard as it
16297 > leafed out. Hopefully all these pictures will line up on top of each
16298 > other. I'm not sure what I want to do with it once I have them stacked up
16302 It might be hard to make an actual panorama out of that (well, you
16303 could, but there won't be parts to match on one side vs. the other)
16304 though both the ideas you talked about sound like they'd be really
16305 interesting images to see. I'm looking forward to seeing what
16306 you do with the tree series!
16308 Aut there are other things you can do with it.
16309 For instance, you can make an animation. To do that, you need to
16310 make an image that has all the layers stacked in order, one on top
16311 of the other, and lined up. Then, if you save as GIF, there's an
16312 option in the GIF save plugin for choosing Animated.
16314 Of course, GIF is a lousy format for photos (it only allows 8 bits
16315 of color per channel, so the full color won't come through) but
16316 it's sometimes worth it for GIF animations that you can put on a web
16317 page and show in any browser.
16319 How do you line up the images? Pretty much like in the panorama
16320 lesson. Turn off visibility on all but the first two images, make
16321 the higher of those two images partially transparent with the
16322 transparency slider in the layers dialog, then use the move tool to
16323 move it around until they line up. Then slide transparency back to
16324 100% (opaque), make the next layer visible, make it semi-transparent,
16325 and repeat until they're all lined up and all 100% opaque.
16327 Patricia Peck writes:
16328 > matching wouldn't be so important, except to have the trunk and major
16329 > branches in the same place in each shot. For the leaf part, you'd have
16330 > to sort of dissolve, wouldn't you?
16332 > And thinking of dissolving from one image to another - do we know how to
16333 > do that? Maybe do overlapping gradients, one coming in and one going
16334 > out? Hmmm... must ask Akkana if that would work, and how.
16336 A dissolve as I know the term implies something that happens over
16337 time, so I guess you're talking about an animation? I'm not sure if
16338 the GIF save plugin has an option to dissolve from one image to the
16339 next, though there are other programs to do that sort of thing.
16340 Perhaps GAP (the gimp animation package) plugin can, though it's
16341 much more elaborate and oriented more toward movie making than just
16342 animated images. I haven't used GAP yet myself, so I don't know how
16343 easy or difficult this might be.
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16408 > A dissolve as I know the term implies something that happens over
16409 > time, so I guess you're talking about an animation?
16411 No, I was thinking about the same effect as in film, only stationary.
16412 With one image fading into another over space rather than time, if that
16413 makes any sense. I don't know how this would look - it might look more
16414 like a mistake than anything else. Just brainstormin'...
16416 I like the idea of an animation of the leaves appearing. Didn't know
16417 Gimp could do that.
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16474 On Sunday 08 May 2005 11:33 pm, Patricia Peck wrote:
16475 > Akkana Peck wrote:
16476 > > A dissolve as I know the term implies something that happens over
16477 > > time, so I guess you're talking about an animation?
16479 > No, I was thinking about the same effect as in film, only stationary.
16481 > I like the idea of an animation of the leaves appearing. Didn't know
16482 > Gimp could do that.
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16546 On Monday 04 April 2005 02:34 pm, Angelina Carlton wrote:
16547 > Many tripods use 1/4" (i think) screw that seems to be a standard
16548 > among manufactures. Therefore you can take a bolt of the same
16549 > size and epoxy it upside down to the top of a pop bottle.
16551 > Now you can carry around the cap and wherever there is a bottle
16552 > of pop, there is now a little tripod. Handy to keep in the car
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16609 That was a long one! I didn't have any photos to stitch, so I went to shoot some with my camera, which is not digital so I still have to scan them, but they came out quite bad and I don't know yet if I will do it or try to shoot another series. Anyway, my sister came in the meantime with some digital ones that were not bad, so I could finally do this lesson!
16611 The french translation of the course is at :
16612 http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=30
16613 and the full panorama would have been too large in the article, so it's at :
16614 http://edhel.nerim.net/images/Louvre-panorama.jpg
16616 I want to do some more! Will post images links if I take the time :)
16618 There was just one thing I didn't manage to do, that was moving a layer with the arrow keys. But maybe my window manager got confused because I maximized the panorama image so it was taking 2x3 virtual desktops...
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16672 I haven't done my "tree" project yet, but I plan to. Instead I took a bunch
16673 of pictures of the front yard, sitting my camera on the porch rail, near
16674 sundown. All the pictures together in one screenshot are here (50Kb):
16676 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/pan/layers1.jpg
16678 When I got them lined up using the arrow keys (very handy)(140Kb):
16680 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/pan/layers4.jpg
16682 After using layer mask, & cropping (300Kb):
16684 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/pan/front.jpg
16686 The xcf is huge (17Mb):
16688 http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/pan/front.xcf
16690 This lesson intimidated me and I kept putting it off. Using the arrow keys
16691 and transparency to line up layers made it easy, and layer mask added the
16692 finishing touches. :)
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16753 On Tuesday 10 May 2005 05:33 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
16755 > The xcf is huge (17Mb):
16757 > http://bobsloansampler.com/gimp/pan/front.xcf
16760 Something went wrong during the upload and my xcf (and the one on the
16761 harddrive) is corrupt. Oh well.
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16790 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Sources for more GIMP information
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16814 This week, we'll take a week off from lessons. Instead of a formal
16815 lesson with homework, I'll tell you about some good sources for GIMP
16816 related information, tutorials, and fun.
16818 WILBER AND THE WILBER CONSTRUCTION KIT
16820 If you've been to any GIMP web sites at all, you've probably wondered
16821 about the little animal GIMP uses as a mascot. If you haven't met
16822 him yet, his face is at the top of the front page at gimp.org.
16824 His name is Wilber. You're not supposed to ask what kind of animal
16825 he is, or if he has a body, because those are secrets. (I thought I
16826 knew the answers to these questions, but it turns out there's some
16827 disagreement about it and I got scolded, so I won't risk saying what
16828 I thought the answers were.)
16830 Wilber has his own Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilber
16832 The Wikipedia page mentions the Wilber Construction Kit, available as
16833 docs/Wilber_Construction_Kit.xcf.gz inside the gimp source directory.
16834 (If you google for that filename, you can probably find it online
16835 somewhere without needing the whole source tree.)
16837 The WCK is a wonderful little toy which shows how useful layers are
16838 in GIMP: it's full of layers of hats, glasses, expressions and other
16839 accessories to use to explore the many facets of Wilber's character.
16841 There are a few other Wilber images around, including a large
16842 vectorized one you can use if you need to make GIMPish logos ("Created
16843 with GIMP" or anything like that) at a larger size than the WCK allows.
16844 A Google Images search for wilber and gimp will turn up plenty of choices.
16848 I owe most of my GIMP knowledge to an excellent book called
16849 "Grokking the GIMP, by Carey Bunks. The whole book is online at
16850 http://gimp-savvy.com/
16852 I visited the gimp-savvy site a couple times when I was just starting
16853 out with GIMP, and read specific chapters online for my particular
16854 projects. The third time I did that and got my questions successfully
16855 answered, I decided I really ought to buy the book. I expected I'd
16856 use the paper book the same way, but to my surprise I started reading
16857 at the beginning ... and before I knew it I had read the book cover to
16858 cover, and had become a complete GIMP addict, making multi-layered
16859 images and spending way too much time browsing gimp related web sites.
16861 The book is written for GIMP 1.2, so it's somewhat out of date with
16862 respect to where specific items are in the menus, and on some features
16863 which have been improved, like the text tool. But most of the
16864 concepts remain unchanged, and I expect the book would still be very
16865 useful for anyone interested in getting further into the GIMP.
16869 There's also quite a bit of documentation on Gimp's website, gimp.org.
16870 Just click on "Documentation": there's a whole GIMP manual there,
16871 full of useful information which is fairly up to date, plus shorter
16872 howtos, lots of developer documentation and other goodies.
16873 The GIMP developers work hard to write documentation and keep it up to
16874 date, especially compared with most free/open source project: there's
16875 a lot of good in-depth information available at gimp.org if you look
16876 for it. Don't make the mistake of assuming that since it's free
16877 software, it isn't worth looking for docs.
16881 There are some great tutorial collections on creating specific effects
16882 in GIMP. Start with the ones on gimp.org: http://gimp.org/tutorials/
16883 There are also some other tutorial collections hanging off gimp.org,
16884 like Carol's: http://carol.gimp.org/
16885 and Tigert's: http://www.tigert.com/gimp/tutorials/
16886 (I think there are others, but they seem to move around a bit).
16888 There's also the "Gimp User's Group", or GUG: http://gug.sunsite.dk/
16889 There are lots of tutorials here, and also a huge assortment of sample
16890 art, if you want inspiration or just want to browse a lot of pretty
16891 art. I've found the GUG site to be somewhat inconsistent: if it
16892 seems to be down, try again later. There's also a GUG mailing list,
16893 but it doesn't get very much traffic.
16895 WinGIMP.org also has quite a collection: http://www.wingimp.org/tutorial/
16897 Another good collection of GIMP tutorials:
16898 http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/
16900 I have some links to fun individual tutorials I've found (like
16901 "Turning a person into an alien") in the Tutorials section of
16902 http://shallowsky.com/linux/limaging.html
16904 But don't stop with GIMP tutorials! It turns out that most Photoshop
16905 tutorials give you most of the information you need to do the same
16906 effect in GIMP, so if you're trying for a particular effect, it's
16907 worth googling for "photoshop" and "tutorial" if you strike out
16908 looking for a GIMP-specific one. I've learned quite a few
16909 tricks from reading Photoshop tutorials and then applying the
16910 techniques in GIMP.
16912 "PHOTOSHOP CONTESTS"
16914 What if you feel like GIMPing something, but you don't have any
16915 specific ideas, or need inspiration?
16917 Or what if you're just bored with all your video games and TV and want
16918 a time waster that's a bit more interesting and humorous?
16920 Check out some Photoshop Contests! A number of web sites have formal or
16921 informal contests where they announce a theme, and then people create
16922 images (typically funny or outrageous) following the theme. Usually you
16923 can vote on the winner; sometimes there are even prizes. It's fun to
16924 browse and laugh at the images other people have created; it's
16925 equally fun to enter (sometimes there are even beginner categories).
16927 Sometimes they provide a sample image, and you modify it somehow;
16928 other times, it's just a general topic, like "Experimental Aircraft"
16929 or "Genetically Modified Animals", and it's up to the entrants to find
16930 appropriate images to modify.
16932 Don't be put off by the "Photoshop" in the name; the word is being
16933 used as a generic term for "image manipulation", and it's perfectly
16934 kosher to enter an image created with GIMP or any other program.
16936 Go check out some of these sites: I guarantee you'll get some laughs,
16937 whether or not you're motivated to enter any contests yourself.
16939 http://www.worth1000.com/
16940 http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop/
16941 http://photoshopcontest.com/
16943 ART AND PHOTO COLLECTIONS AND TIPS
16945 There are also more serious sites for posting (or viewing) digital
16946 art, like GUG, http://gug.sunsite.dk/ (which I already mentioned for
16947 their tutorials) and http://www.dpchallenge.com/
16949 Another good source of inspiration is the contest the gimp developers
16950 had recently for the 2.2 splash screen. Some of the images there
16951 are really stunning.
16952 http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/contest/
16954 There are also lots of collections of amazing (and funny) digital
16955 creations by individual artists. Sometimes they use gimp, sometimes
16956 photoshop. It doesn't matter -- they all *could* have been done
16957 with gimp, so they're good inspiration either way. :-)
16959 Our own Danamania has created some great designs based on
16960 Apple hardware: http://www.danaquarium.com/gallery/vhacks
16961 and she has some interesting creations of other sorts
16962 (check out the cars!): http://www.danaquarium.com/gallery/misc
16964 Another good site I found out about recently:
16965 http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/uglyzoo/
16967 And of course, there are some great sites if you just want to learn
16968 more about photography techniques, or share your photos with others
16969 and get feedback on them. I'm partial to
16970 http://photo.net/ and http://www.luminous-landscape.com/
16974 There are lots more sites besides the ones I mentioned here!
16975 Anyone have any favorites to share?
16977 NEXT LESSON: REQUESTS?
16979 I don't have a topic for a next lesson yet. I'd like to hear from
16980 the students in the course! What do you want to hear about? Are the
16981 lessons so far enough to keep you busy for a while, and maybe it's
16982 time for a break? Or is there anything in particular you'd like to
16983 learn how to do? Any techniques you've tried, but they aren't working
16984 out as well as you'd like? Any tips you've discovered, or insights
16985 you've had, while working on gimp projects, that you could share?
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17037 On Friday 08 April 2005 11:46 pm, Akkana Peck wrote:
17038 > This week, we'll take a week off from lessons. Instead of a formal
17039 > lesson with homework, I'll tell you about some good sources for GIMP
17040 > related information, tutorials, and fun.
17043 Thank you! I was afraid I'd not be able to catch up now that I've fallen
17050 > _______________________________________________
17051 > Courses mailing list
17052 > Courses@linuxchix.org
17053 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
17057 ...the continuing popularity of micro$oft window$ proves only that ten
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17117 > This week, we'll take a week off from lessons. Instead of a formal
17118 > lesson with homework, I'll tell you about some good sources for GIMP
17119 > related information, tutorials, and fun.
17122 I'm going to agree with Julie here. I've fallen behind, too, and will
17123 be very glad of an extra week or even two. You have some great
17124 information in this GIMP information post, and just checking out all of
17125 that is going to take as long as a lesson. It really looks like fun, at
17126 a cursory glance, but I'm going to exercise a little self-control and do
17127 the two lessons I've missed before playing with Wilber and other such
17131 > I'd like to hear from
17132 > the students in the course! What do you want to hear about? Are the
17133 > lessons so far enough to keep you busy for a while, and maybe it's
17134 > time for a break? Or is there anything in particular you'd like to
17137 As mentioned above, I could use a little break to good advantage. There
17138 was one thing I wanted to ask how to do, but now that I've become an
17139 expert in image manipulation (joke!) thanks to this course, I can see
17140 what they did, and might try a little of the same myself.
17142 What it was: Some time ago (pre-gimplessons), our town put out a
17143 brochure on "Art in Public Places", with photos and addresses. A couple
17144 of friends and I did a tour of most of the examples. It was amazing how
17145 the photos had made some pretty pedestrian art look really good. What
17146 they did, generally speaking, was to use two or three angles of the same
17147 subject, manipulate one or two to be a somewhat washed-out background,
17148 with the other(s) sharper and in the foreground. After the lessons
17149 we've had and after taking another look at the photos, it looks pretty
17150 simple, with the main requirement being to get good angles and decide
17151 which should be the in-focus one.
17153 I think I'll take a run at doing a few of these myself, since there are
17154 a few pieces of pedestrian art around here that they didn't cover. :-)
17156 I'll be interested in what other students want to hear about, and will
17157 give it a little more thought myself. I'm such a neophyte at this that
17158 I don't even know what I want to know.
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17223 > I want to know how to draw a circle.
17225 Good one! I hadn't thought of that, but now that you've brought it up,
17226 I want to, also. I don't know *why* I want to, but it may come in handy
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17288 I'm finally working on Lesson 9 - I'm SO far behind! This is what I
17291 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/LayMask.jpg
17293 The orange stuff is "dodder", a "leafless parasitic vine with yellowish
17294 threadlike stems". Pretty for a parasite, isn't it? I couldn't get my
17295 layer mask to look as good as Akkana's no matter how I diddled with all
17296 the variables. Maybe size matters and my text was too small?
17298 Then there's the bump map, an easy one, but there's sure a lot of stuff
17301 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/BumpMap.jpg
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17365 Patricia Peck wrote:
17367 Still working... well, working again. I got the layer mask better when
17368 I changed the foreground color back to black from the orange of the
17369 text. (Yes, it said black in the lesson, but I missed that part the
17370 first time.) So this one looks somewhat better than the first try. I
17371 just overwrote the old one, so it's gone.
17373 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/LayMask.jpg
17375 After that, I fiddled with bump map on the same image. Never did get
17376 what I was aiming for, but this is kinda interesting:
17378 http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/maskbump.jpg
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17402 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
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17404 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Drawing a circle
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17432 Patricia Peck writes:
17433 > After that, I fiddled with bump map on the same image. Never did get
17434 > what I was aiming for, but this is kinda interesting:
17436 > http://webpages.charter.net/patpeck/maskbump.jpg
17438 That's a neat effect! It's from a bump map? It looks like it
17439 must have been from a combination of a couple different text layers,
17440 like the text and its shadow, or the text and a slightly larger
17441 version of the same text.
17443 Isn't it fun how you can get play around randomly and get
17444 interesting new effects? It was that way when I wrote the
17445 lesson on layer masks: most of the effects were really boring,
17446 then every now and then I'd go "Ooh, that's worth saving."
17447 But the ones worth saving might have been quite different if
17448 I'd started with different colors. There are so many combinations!
17450 Regarding drawing a circle:
17452 GIMP doesn't have shape-drawing tools, but it does have shape
17453 selection tools. So the trick is to make a circular selection,
17454 then turn that into a line.
17456 The ellipse selection tool, of course, can make a circle, but it's
17457 hard, just dragging it out, to make it a perfect circle with width
17458 and height the same. But pressing the shift key while you drag will
17459 constrain the ellipse selection to be exactly circular.
17461 There's a catch, though: shift has two meanings. It can mean "Add
17462 to current selection", and it can mean "constrain to a circle".
17463 If you press shift first, before you start dragging, you'll see a
17464 little "+" gets added to the mouse cursor: that means "whatever you
17465 select now will be added to the current selection, instead of
17466 replacing it." But in addition, the selection will be constrained
17467 to be circular. (What if you want to add a non-circular selection?
17468 I'll tell you that in a minute.)
17470 However, if you start dragging first, and then, while the mouse is
17471 still down, press shift, then the selection is constrained to a
17472 circle, but will still replace any existing selection.
17474 This works in the rectangular selection tool, too, for making squares.
17476 I think in earlier versions of gimp, pressing shift to get a
17477 circular selection also shifts the selection to be centered around
17478 the point where you started, rather than using that as the upper
17479 left point. That was somewhat jarring, and gimp 2.2 doesn't do that
17480 any more. Remember, you can move a selection after you've made it
17481 with alt-drag (if your windowmanager doesn't block that) or
17482 alt-shift-drag (which works in most windowmanagers).
17484 Okay, that's how to get a circular selection. How do you draw a
17485 line where the selection is?
17487 Edit->Stroke Selection... will do that. It brings up a dialog
17488 where you can select the stroke width, or stroke with a paint tool
17489 if you want to use a particular brush.
17491 For some reason, I can never remember where this is (why is it in
17492 Edit?), so sometimes I use another method: Select->Border...
17493 replaces the selection with its own outline, and you can use
17494 the bucket fill tool to fill that. If you just want a circle,
17495 Stroke Selection is better, but it's good to know that Border is
17496 there too. Explore that Select... menu: you might find other
17497 functions there that will be useful to you.
17499 ADD/SUBTRACT SELECTIONS
17501 I mentioned earlier that I'd tell you how to add a non-circular
17502 selection to the current selection. With the ellipse selection tool
17503 active (or another selection tool, like rectangular or lasso), look
17504 at the tool options. At the top of the options dialog is a Mode
17505 selector with several obscure buttons. This lets you change whether
17506 the selection you make will replace the current selection, add to
17507 it, subtract from it, or intersect with it.
17509 Why would you want to do this? Actually it's extremely useful.
17510 For example, remember the lesson on selection of complex objects,
17511 where I selected a butterfly? Suppose I made that selection,
17512 including the butterfly's antenna, but then later decided that I
17513 didn't want to enhance the antenna because they looked weird.
17514 I could choose the Lasso tool, click the "Subtract from current
17515 selection" button, then draw a big lasso around just the antenna
17516 (very easy: I wouldn't have to outline them carefully, just make
17517 sure that my big lasso includes all the parts of the selection which
17518 I want to exclude).
17520 "Add to current selection" can also be useful because it allows you
17521 to combine several different selection tools into one selection.
17522 You could use select by color or select similar regions to select
17523 a complex shape, then use rectangular or elliptical selection in
17524 "Add" mode to add a box or oval sticking off one side.
17526 Often you can accomplish the same thing using layer masks or quickmask
17527 (we haven't talked about the quickmask, but it's somewhat similar
17528 to layer masks), but there are times where you specifically need a
17529 selection with a complex shape, and add/subtract modes can be a
17530 real time-saver then.
17532 That ended up being almost a lesson. But there's still no homework. :-)
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17567 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Drawing a circle
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17595 > That's a neat effect! It's from a bump map? It looks like it
17596 > must have been from a combination of a couple different text layers,
17597 > like the text and its shadow, or the text and a slightly larger
17598 > version of the same text.
17600 No, way simpler than that. It was the same basic image as the layer
17601 mask, and I just selected bump map and played around with the options.
17602 Totally a happy mistake.
17605 > Isn't it fun how you can get play around randomly and get
17606 > interesting new effects?
17608 It is! And there are SO many options to a lot of these things that you
17609 can while away happy hours just playing with them. Or not so happy if
17610 you're looking for a specific effect and failing. :-)
17612 > It was that way when I wrote the
17613 > lesson on layer masks: most of the effects were really boring,
17614 > then every now and then I'd go "Ooh, that's worth saving."
17616 Sometimes you can learn a lot of new stuff when you're teaching, can't you?
17618 > The ellipse selection tool, of course, can make a circle, but it's
17619 > hard, just dragging it out, to make it a perfect circle with width
17620 > and height the same. But pressing the shift key while you drag will
17621 > constrain the ellipse selection to be exactly circular.
17623 Cool tip. I just tried selecting a circle around a particular spot, and
17624 it works great if you do it from upper left to lower right. The stroke
17625 selection and border gizmos work great, too.
17628 > That ended up being almost a lesson. But there's still no homework. :-)
17636 From cabucholtz@yahoo.com.au Sun Apr 10 12:45:47 2005
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17658 From: Carolyn Bucholtz <cabucholtz@yahoo.com.au>
17659 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Sources for more GIMP information
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17682 Thank you, Akkana for such a lot of gimp info, will keep me busy for
17685 > I don't have a topic for a next lesson yet. I'd like to hear from
17686 > the students in the course! What do you want to hear about?=20
17688 I'm really enjoying the course, but can't think of any specific
17689 topics to suggest. I suppose its because I'm a new gimp user, and
17690 don't really know all that I can get from it.
17693 Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
17694 http://au.movies.yahoo.com
17696 From akkana@shallowsky.com Sat Apr 16 14:28:46 2005
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17714 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
17715 To: courses@linuxchix.org
17716 Subject: [Courses][gimp] Fun with drawing tools
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17740 Sounds like everybody is enjoying the vacation. So no lesson
17741 this week. But I want to share a couple of images someone showed
17742 me recently which demonstrate some neat drawing techniques.
17744 First, they're not made with GIMP, though all the techniques used
17745 are available in GIMP. No, not with Photoshop, either!
17746 They're made with ... Tux Paint! By kids! (Though I'm told
17747 the kids probably had some help.)
17750 http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/gallery/?cur_pict=126
17751 Check out those clouds! Use a fuzzy brush in the paintbrush tool
17752 and scribble some grey. Then scribble some white above it.
17753 Make part of the white a little transparent to make it blend
17754 into the grey. You might want two layers of white: one opaque,
17755 one partially transparent (with the slider in the Layers dialog).
17756 I like the scribbled sun reflection, too. (The penguins and
17757 trees are shapes built into TuxPaint, I think.)
17759 Second, a neat aurora effect:
17760 http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/gallery/?cur_pict=102
17761 Just some curved lines (drawn in a fuzzy brush) that change colors
17762 (you could set "Use color from gradient" in the paint tool, though
17763 none of the existing gradients are quite right so you might have
17764 to design one; or you could just draw several different lines,
17765 changing the color by hand). Then use the smudge tool to smudge
17766 the colors upward. It does take a lot of smudging, but it's a neat
17767 effect. If you find that it's taking too much smudging, try playing
17768 with the "Rate" slider in the smudge tool options, and use a bigger
17769 brush when smudging.
17771 Just a couple of examples of how really simple drawing tools can
17772 be used to create surprisingly good effects. If five and nine year
17773 old kids can learn how to do this stuff, maybe there's hope for
17774 those of us who are a little older.
17776 No homework, but if you're looking for gimp projects, try playing
17777 with transparency of layers, and with the smudge tool, in connection
17778 with the drawing tools. You could probably also create some nice
17779 text effects this way, using smudge or several semi-transparent
17780 layers in combination with text.
17784 From kproot@nerim.net Sun Apr 24 22:20:37 2005
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17801 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:13:11 +0200
17802 From: Karine Delvare <kproot@nerim.net>
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17804 Subject: [Courses][gimp] gimp-fr.org links to the courses !
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17827 I was surprised this morning to see my weblog's statistics had gone through the roof. This is why :
17829 http://www.gimp-fr.org/
17831 Akkana's gimp courses, Linuxchix website, the Courses mailing list and my translations to the courses are mentioned there. I think noone was forgotten there so I hope everyone will enjoy this Linuxchix highlighting :)
17833 Anyway, now I *really* have to work on the usability of my weblog because right now it's so awful one cannot navigate properly in it.
17835 And I still have to translate the 2 add-on lessons :)
17839 http://edhel.nerim.net/
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17886 Subject: [Courses] [gimp] Just for fun: hackergotchi heads
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17904 I'm not here to hijack Akk's course, but I just thought of a fun
17905 exercise in the GIMP.
17907 Many of the "Planet" sites ( http://planet.debian.org/ ,
17908 http://planet.gnome.org/ ) have floating heads associated with each
17909 person's blog entries. Someone has done up a fairly short set of
17910 instructions for making your own here: http://www.grep.be/blog/lj/21322
17912 So people willing to show us their faces can try their own. You can see
17913 mine at http://users.puzzling.org/users/mary/Images/big-mary.png
17915 I'm going to add these heads optionally to http://live.linuxchix.org/ ,
17916 and I might pass on requests for GIMPing to you guys :)
17920 From photopoppy@gmail.com Mon May 2 07:32:07 2005
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17943 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:31:59 -0800
17944 From: Poppy Casper <photopoppy@gmail.com>
17945 To: courses@linuxchix.org
17946 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Just for fun: hackergotchi heads
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17976 I assume that the heads will be associated with the site, not coming
17977 from our regular blogs.... I'm attaching mine as a PNG as I don't know
17978 where to put it for you :)
17980 That was actually kind of fun.... and a good use of a picture that
17981 otherwise had turned out pretty badly.
17985 On 4/29/05, Mary <mary-linuxchix@puzzling.org> wrote:
17988 > I'm not here to hijack Akk's course, but I just thought of a fun
17989 > exercise in the GIMP.
17991 > Many of the "Planet" sites ( http://planet.debian.org/ ,
17992 > http://planet.gnome.org/ ) have floating heads associated with each
17993 > person's blog entries. Someone has done up a fairly short set of
17994 > instructions for making your own here: http://www.grep.be/blog/lj/21322
17996 > So people willing to show us their faces can try their own. You can see
17997 > mine at http://users.puzzling.org/users/mary/Images/big-mary.png
17999 > I'm going to add these heads optionally to http://live.linuxchix.org/ ,
18000 > and I might pass on requests for GIMPing to you guys :)
18003 > _______________________________________________
18004 > Courses mailing list
18005 > Courses@linuxchix.org
18006 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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18044 From: Mary <mary-linuxchix@puzzling.org>
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18046 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Just for fun: hackergotchi heads
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18055 X-Nihilism: Immortality is all I seek... Give us this day our daily week...
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18077 On Sun, May 01, 2005, Poppy Casper wrote:
18078 > I assume that the heads will be associated with the site, not coming
18079 > from our regular blogs.... I'm attaching mine as a PNG as I don't know
18080 > where to put it for you :)
18082 Yeah, I'll put the PNGs on the site.
18084 > That was actually kind of fun.... and a good use of a picture that
18085 > otherwise had turned out pretty badly.
18087 It didn't come through, I think the list software strips attachments.
18088 Send it to me at additions@live.linuxchix.org and I'll put it up. People
18089 can see existing heads at http://live.linuxchix.org/heads/
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18148 My bad, I was trying to send it offlist.
18150 On 5/1/05, Mary <mary-linuxchix@puzzling.org> wrote:
18152 > It didn't come through, I think the list software strips attachments.
18153 > Send it to me at additions@live.linuxchix.org and I'll put it up. People
18154 > can see existing heads at http://live.linuxchix.org/heads/
18157 > _______________________________________________
18158 > Courses mailing list
18159 > Courses@linuxchix.org
18160 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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18218 On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:16:51AM +1000, Mary wrote:
18219 > I'm going to add these heads optionally to http://live.linuxchix.org/ ,
18220 > and I might pass on requests for GIMPing to you guys :)
18222 I have a request: can anyone make a decent floating head for me out
18223 of any of my self-portraits at
18224 http://katie-and-rob.org/album/20050219_self_portraits/ ? I've been
18225 having trouble finding good borders, what with my long hair.
18228 Katie Bechtold http://katie-and-rob.org/
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18291 We've got another request to do a hackergotchi head. Can anyone do a
18292 head from http://chionh.org/images/face48.jpg ?
18294 Samples of existing heads are at http://live.linuxchix.org/heads/ , and
18295 some instructions are at http://www.grep.be/blog/lj/21322
18299 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Mon Jun 6 10:42:20 2005
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18325 From: Julie Sloan <juliesloan@mindspring.com>
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18327 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Another hackergotchi request
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18355 On Tuesday 31 May 2005 08:06 pm, Mary wrote:
18356 > Hi GIMP students,
18358 > We've got another request to do a hackergotchi head. Can anyone do a
18359 > head from http://chionh.org/images/face48.jpg ?
18361 > Samples of existing heads are at http://live.linuxchix.org/heads/ , and
18362 > some instructions are at http://www.grep.be/blog/lj/21322
18367 I did one! <g> the instructions said first you have to do one of yourself.
18370 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/sig2.png
18372 Then I tried the requested one, which would have IMO turned out better if
18373 she hadn't cut half her chin off in the photo. gotch2 clips out her neck,
18374 which I guess is what you're supposed to do...
18376 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/gotch1.png
18377 http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/gotch2.png
18379 ...is png a good format for this? I'll let someone else decide if my
18380 results are good enough to offer. :)
18389 From claudine@chionh.org Mon Jun 6 15:52:10 2005
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18415 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:31:49 +1000 (EST)
18416 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Another hackergotchi request
18417 From: "Claudine Chionh" <claudine@chionh.org>
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18444 > Then I tried the requested one, which would have IMO turned out better =
18446 > she hadn't cut half her chin off in the photo. gotch2 clips out her ne=
18448 > which I guess is what you're supposed to do...
18450 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/gotch1.png
18451 > http://www.bobsloansampler.com/gimp/gotch2.png
18453 Ah, I must be subscribed to "all topics"; I haven't been keeping up with =
18457 Yes, the chin is a bit of a close shave, but I'd have to find the full-si=
18459 photo again to crop it properly, and I moved house recently and my CDs
18462 Anyway, PoppyC also did a gotchi, which she sent to me privately instead =
18464 to the list. My latest post hasn't turned up on live.linuxchix.org yet, s=
18466 I'm not sure how it will look in context.
18468 Thanks for your effort though!
18473 Claudine Chionh <claudine@chionh.org>
18474 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
18475 phone: +61 418 592 269
18480 From juliesloan@mindspring.com Tue Jun 7 09:02:38 2005
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18532 On Monday 06 June 2005 01:31 am, Claudine Chionh wrote:
18533 > Julie Sloan said:
18534 > > Then I tried the requested one, which would have IMO turned out better
18535 > > if she hadn't cut half her chin off in the photo.<snip>
18537 > Yes, the chin is a bit of a close shave, but I'd have to find the
18538 > full-size photo again to crop it properly, and I moved house recently and
18539 > my CDs aren't organised.
18541 > Anyway, PoppyC also did a gotchi, which she sent to me privately instead
18542 > of to the list. <snip>
18544 > Thanks for your effort though!
18551 I didn't realize you were on this list, or I'd have spoken "to" rather than
18552 "at" you. That was my first encounter with hackergotchi and I just had to
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18584 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:01 +1000 (EST)
18585 Subject: Re: [Courses] [gimp] Another hackergotchi request
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18615 > I didn't realize you were on this list, or I'd have spoken "to" rather =
18617 > "at" you. That was my first encounter with hackergotchi and I just had=
18621 That's OK, I'm not really active on this course -- I'm interested in GIMP
18622 but haven't been able to give it much of my time.
18627 Claudine Chionh <claudine@chionh.org>
18628 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
18629 phone: +61 418 592 269
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18684 Akkana Peck ... just to let you know:
18686 We've just begun using GIMP here at work and my plans are to utilize
18687 this great program at home. I ran across your site for the GIMP course.
18688 How well written! Excellent job! I'm looking forward to better
18689 understanding this fine product. As for you and your style, it prompted
18690 me to go ahead and order your book Beginning GIMP: From Novice to
18693 Thank you for your support and great presentation abilities. You are
18694 one terrific person.
18702 Nashville, TN 37243
18704 calbert.hyland@state.tn.us
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18778 1. Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
18782 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
18785 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:24:29 -0800
18786 From: Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>
18787 Subject: Re: [Courses][gimp] Lesson 3: Introduction to Layers and Text
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18792 I just want to say, thanks, Karine! I do appreciate your adding a
18793 link back to the original courses, or my name. And your French
18794 translations of the course look really great -- I don't read French
18795 (much, anyway) but all the screenshots add a lot.
18797 And an oversight doesn't make you a jerk. :-)
18801 Karine Proot writes:
18802 > Hello chix and Gimp-course-followers,
18804 > It seems I had not mentioned the original courses and their author=20
18805 > anywhere in my translated courses where I post my homework, but in the
18807 > lesson 0 (where there was only a link to the course and not even=20
18808 > Akkana's name...)
18810 > Please consider that my website was not yet advertised, so only people
18812 > from Linuxchix came and saw the lessons, so no damage had yet be done.
18814 > But it would have been advertised in a near future and damage would
18818 > Anyway, thanks to those you saw this and told me about it, I hate
18822 > Akkana, please accept my apologies.
18825 > _______________________________________________
18826 > Courses mailing list
18827 > Courses@linuxchix.org
18828 > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/courses
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